TANK SPEC!
Rune of Taunt
Learn taunt. Immune to critical strikes. Requires 2 handed weapon.
Suddenly survival becomes viable
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I would be so disappointed if hunter is left as the only pure dps.
A tanking rune would be perfect to make survival relevant.
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I posted the same exact idea on Twitter, survival could easily be a tank spec with just some added threat to hold agro. If they didnāt want to go that route I would suggest switching Wyvern Sting and Savage Strikes on the talent tree, forcing melee hunters to fully dedicate their talents to survival, but also buffing savage strikes to maybe add melee attack speed on crits similar to warriors and enhancement shamans
Why does Hunter need 2 tank talent trees?
Edit: NGL, I would be further disinclined to touch hunter if they continue to push it further and further from the ranged DPS roots. I loved SV in TBC and WotLK. I hate what they have done to the spec since.
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Iād rather have them work on making melee hunter an actually interesting spec if they worked on hunter at all. I donāt care if you do 5x damage, Iām not sitting there hitting raptor strike all day
Since when did hunters already have a tank talent tree? And you can continue to play ranged DPS hunter perfectly fine even if they have other trees dedicated to other roles, just spec in marksman and use your ranged weapon
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Ranged hunter is perfectly fine currently.
Survival however is a dead spec in classic, adding a tanking rune would give us a reason to play it. This doesnāt interfere with ranged hunter in any way.
Btw this is SoD, one of the main selling points is to explore new types of gameplay.
Beast Master. Your pet has high defensives, high health, high threat.
Ranged SV is pointless as is, as the spec lacks the abilities and effects to make it worthwhile doing so. SV really only kicked off mid-to-late TBC when expose weakness let you buff the whole raid noticeably. Readiness, the passive 13% crit from Killer Instinct and Master Tactician (Not including the 15% agi from Lightning Reflexes) made you a great raid buffer and master of CC. WotLK built on that, giving you raid-wide mana regen, Black Arrow, more crit, Explosive Shots, and even pet scaling.
Those are the things that I liked about being a SV hunter - not melee, but being effectively a DPS that provided sustain and damage boosts to your group.
Iām speaking about Ranged SV, not necessarily ranged in general. MM is certainly better now though.
and āMelee hunterā and ādodge tank SVā are not new - SV is melee only in Retail, and dodge tanking is what I did in heroics throughout TBC and WotLK since SV was the king of CC.
2 traps, Wyvern Sting, Pet and then Deterrence.
No one wants to play a tank melee hunter spec. You have no runes to help tank besides catlike reflexes on helm which is not even all that great. Plus, there are already other abundances of tank specs.
I would rather they make survival the main melee tree and dive more into beast mastery. Why is it that you can only use one pet with BM tree? I would like to be able to use all my pets at the same time.
The issue with SV is that SoD uses the era client and itās unlikely that the talent trees are going to change. MM is always going to be superior.
SV however has very good defensive talents that could be explored further.
I want to. And all we need currently is a rune that increases threat and reduces crit chance.
Tbh I joined SoD because I thought they would give new roles to all pure classes. Ofc hunter didnāt get oneā¦
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High armor, with no real avoidance. No way to achieve crit immunity, and horrible positioning controls for avoiding mechanics.
High health, but low efficent hp because of the issues listed above.
And its aggro is actually horrible. It has non existant aoe aggro and a low CD taunt, which means it will hold aggro for 3 seconds then lose aggro for 3 seconds, then hold aggro again.
A hunter pet ātankā is essentially a worse feral druid tank in every way outside of avoidance (the reduced aoe damage taken by 90%). So if the boss is exclusive aoe damage, then yes, the pet is able to tank. Outside of that the pet dies in 1-2 auto attacks from a raid boss.
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Agreed.
Butā¦ whatās the difference between a SV Hunter tank and Rogue Tank?
They both function the same way, wear similar gear (at least until 40), stack similar statsā¦ thereās nothing ānewā about their gameplay. Especially since adding more tank options to the game wonāt fix the role imbalance around the game.
They are completely different classes that use a different ressource? And they donāt wear the same gear because hunters wonāt have a tanking rune before 60, if they decide to add one itās for next phase.
Tbh Iām always confused as why ppl would be against adding new options that donāt even step on something else space.
Iām not against it, Iām challenging you to flesh it out in way that makes it more than just āI wantā.
Right now, you have ādodge tank that uses manaā, which is not really a compelling differentiator from Rogue.
dungeon wise
trap kiting and pet aggro managing alone is enough to make them feel completely different.
Raid wise
you dont have combo points or energy, wyvern sting or counterattack could put your form of active mitigation, also every tank in raid is just stand and hit and hope your block value saves you and your healers arent asleep
Then I guess all other tanks are similar to eachother because all they do is absorbing hits.
Also with vanilla talent trees it was more work to make rogue and lock tanks than SV hunters.
Thatās just beast master, then. Thereās no real difference.
Wyvern Sting cannot be done in melee, so youād have to remove the deadzone for it to work - and if you can remove the deadzone, you make it the go-to PvP spec and will have every MM hunter in melee range for PvE.
Also, only Warriors and Paladins/Shamans can block, so your summation is a bit misleading. Warlocks, Druids, Rogues are all reliant on other mechanics.
m8 take your reddit filled "acktchually"s somewhere else
Finally with BM rune we wonāt even need an off tank for taunt swaps.
He tanks it all!