Surv- Memory of a Dire command

Classes Hunter
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I’ve been playing this game for 15 years and I still don’t know how to post a blue support ticket response but I’ll copy and paste.

TLDR: GM told me that Memory of Dire Command should be working for survival hunters and it doesn’t.

Can we please hotfix this?

Please refer to the below screenshot. I have blue post response stating that " "Memory of Dire Command " should work for Survival Hunters. I know we are the ultimate minority in this game with like 7% of Hunters maining survival but can we get some love?

It’s nice to have options and here’s a blue post confirming that it should work for survival but it does not. If I switch to BM it procs 20% of the time just like it says it should but as survival it will not proc after over 200 tests.

I know the typical hate responses its sub optimal, switch specs, etc… it’s a BM mem… .

The fact remains that we have kill command and a GM says it should be working for survival and its not.

Can we please get a hot fix on this?

Hey there Jeremiah!

Game Master Cthulolchu here! I will be the one helping you out today with your case.

I appreciate you taking the time to reach out to me about crafting the wrong Legendary item with the Runecarver. I know it can be frustrating to reach out for assistance so thank you for being patient while we look into your situation.

When it comes to Shadowlands Legendary crafting, Game Masters follow the same rules within the game on returns which is 2 hours. I took a look into your case, but were not able to find a Legendary item being made within 2 hours of the contact. I am afraid due to this, we are unable to step in with a refund of the craft.

You mainly contacting saying this Legendary is not for your Spec, but I see the Memory is for Kill Command to have a chance for more power. I saw you were in Survival Spec which uses Kill Command so the ring is for your spec.

Make sure to always take your time within the game. The experience you have is shaped by the decisions you make, whether they be good or bad. I know this may not be the outcome you are aiming for and that can be frustrating for sure. The material for Legendaries can be regained in time so do your best on your next creation.

Thanks for taking the time to reach out to me and reading my reply to your case. If you run into any other concerns or worries, please let us know and we can check things out for you.

Sincere wishes,
Game Master Cthulolchu

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This is not a blue post. This is something that looks like it could be a GM response, but since you pasted it here in plain text, you could very well have typed it up yourself.

Post a screenshot or link an actual blue post if you want to be taken seriously.

On-topic, there are a few Conduits that go the other way as well. I tend to think they should either all work across any spec with the ability, or the tooltips should be updated to make it explicit it only works with the intended spec.

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Sure, how can I post the screenshot?

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Alright I shared the Hyper link please let me know if that’s clickable for you

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No, use the Snipping Tool to take a screenshot (hiding your personal information) and upload it to an image sharing site.

Recommend you delete the previous post with the support ticket link.

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I’ve seen a few bug reports with this issue - best bet is keep reporting it in game/via the bug forums. Seems a lot of game-breaking bugs even, are being ignored at the moment - Devs seem to be aware just not responding to these things.

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Yeah this is definitely a bug, one way or the other.

Either the interaction is bugged and it should work for Survival, or the tooltip is bugged and it should specify Beast Mastery only.

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I can only guess that kill command has different spell IDs for BM and SV.

Based on other classes legendary items that have similar interactions, it should be working but those classes don’t have different spells. So most likely just an oversight.

I wouldn’t get my hopes up of it being fixed anytime soon though. I’ll submit a ticket on it as well. Hope and prayer kind of thing!

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Do you know why it says this topic was delisted and can only be accessed via a direct link?

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If this was really written by a GM, then that dude doesn’t give a crap. It takes no time to verify that Dire Command is not a Survival Legendary. You should try to get another ticket to another GM.

However, asking for a hotfix is also not the right thing to do. It’s not a bug that it dosn’t proc, it’s clearly intended to proc BM’s Dire Beast talent, which is an ability that doesn’t exist as Survival, and it’s clearly classified as a BM legendary. So asking for it to proc as Survival is never going to work. Refunding the Soul Ash is the only logical thing to ask for, but if they really have a time policy then you’re likely to get screwed.

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This is not a smart post. This is something that looks like you were trying to be clever, but it is not clever.
This is a very stupid post.

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I agree with the assessment, though I believe legendaries should say which spec they are for within the tool tip to help clarify for players and the intentions behind an item’s power. It would take very minimal effort to help clear things up for those who might be confused.

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:roll_eyes:

Let me just type up whatever I want using any of the dozens of ticket responses I’ve gotten over the years as a style guide, and claim a GM said it.

Not doubting OP’s claim (I mean seriously he attempted to link his support ticket in the thread) but without proof that it was a Blizzard employee his post carries no more weight than anyone else’s.

Also note that I responded to OP’s concern, noting that this is not a one-off issue, and expressing support for getting it fixed either by allowing it to work for BM and SV or clarifying the tooltip to explicitly state BM only.

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This is called “operating in bad faith” and it’s not a good look.

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It’s called trust, but verify. I accept OP’s claim that he inadvertently crafted it thinking it would work for SV, that he reached out to a GM to get it refunded, and that the GM refused the refund if it was outside the window.

I agree with OP that the Legendary (just like the Conduits that affect Kill Command) should either work for both BM and SV or should explicitly state in the tooltip which spec it is for.

I’m skeptical that a GM would confirm mechanics like that, as they tend to shy away from saying things of that nature and focus strictly on what they are allowed to do (or not) per policy, at least from my experience filing many, many tickets over the years.

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Blizz has known since beta released leggos to be tested that leggos listed as spec specific have worked outside of the spec it is listed.

Examples being Deaths Certainty for DK working in both non-UH specs.

Another one is Unhinged from Arms warrior. Not only does it work for fury, it casts the mortal strikes and applies the debuff.

With Blizz never correcting the issue for any class and only this specific one not working, it would be more realistic they intended to work.

I believe the issue is SV kill command has a different spell ID and it slipped through the cracks to get fixed. Now with GMs confirming it should work, it is indeed a bug.

Not one I would expect to get fixed any time soon though. Plus it isn’t as if it is strong for SV. It adds a whopping 40 dps at base levels and a 5% haste buff. SV has nothing to increase the dps of it.

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No, man. You’re just operating in bad faith, smugly, while you adjust a pretend pair of glasses and look down your nose because you think the structure of someone’s post was offensive unto itself.
It’s not cute, it doesn’t make you look clever or contemplative, it makes you look like a recreational pedant with an obsession towards bureaucratic norms.

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That’s exactly what would be causing it, because the functionality (and thus spell ID) of the two versions of Kill Command is different.
It’s very obvious it’s intended to work, both because the item lacks specification as BM only, and because the Dire Beast related Azerite traits of BFA did work for survival.
OP’s perfectly in the right for trying to get this fixed, regardless of what pocket pedants on the forums might have to say about it.

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I mean, you got me, I’m pedantic on internet forums, and I like to see actual sources.

Sorry not sorry. The number of times I’ve seen people make claims pulled completely from their behind with nothing to support it has made me a skeptic.

Operating in bad faith would be refusing to engage in any discussion until OP met my demands, which I didn’t do - from my first post I acknowledged that this issue is annoying and should be corrected. Sorry I’m not willing to take it on faith that a GM said a thing I find it very unlikely a GM would say. You must be new here if you haven’t seen the “But a GM totally said this, honest!” schtick before.

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I don’t think anyone here was arguing that this shouldn’t be looked at though. It’s obviously either what Rocktoes is saying (which would make sense) or it’s a tool tip error and needs to be marked as BM only (which also makes sense, if you go in to your adventure’s guide and look at SV powers, Dire Command does not show up at all even though it would be fine to have as a power for SV).