Hi!
With the unbalance in pvp could you please add a surrender vote button ?
Cheers
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Nooooooo. Every WG would end after a failed SR push.
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and? not like there’s anything to gain when you get GY camped.
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They should stop backfilling lost BGs and let them close early. If 20% of players leave a BG they left for a reason. This will disincentive premades griefing/farming HK’s and allow BGs to close early. If a BG stops backfilling and doesn’t have enough players it will close in 1 min. This fixes so many problems.
That way when you join a losing BG you don’t have to immediately leave. Since you won’t get thrown into them anymore. Also in these Epic BGs their awful design will become more evident when they start closing early since they are won/lost in the first 2 mins. (not to mention most players hate siege maps and want them removed)
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hm , I reckon have more than one GY , and make it so that if you die within a vicinity of it, you’re sent to the other one.
Of course it’s probably a 0.01% drop rate of a dev actually seeing this idea and implementing it… alas.
I’ve won games after losing the first SR push. It’s not impossible. Although it is much easier on defense.
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Doesn’t matter the game is over. Then new people join a game where the team is getting farmed. No one wants that then they leave and new people join a dead BG. Just LET IT END EARLY!!! Then teams won’t grief GY’s.
Just not worth your time. No one wants to get backfilled into WG and no one wants to stay for 30 mins of losing. It’s easier to leave immediately. Just stop backfilling these trash BGs and let them end early.
Better yet remove Siege maps if you can’t fix them or give us Blacklisting so we don’t have to do these idiotic BGs that almost everyone hates.
If you lose SR in WG you leave
If you lose Hangar in Isle you leave
Why? Cause these BGs are trash and should be removed.
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If people are so prone to leaving BGS at the first sign of trouble then they shouldn’t be playing PvP. This is exactly why we need harsher penalties for leavers. This isn’t the first time you’ve shown a “if it’s rough then bail” mentality.
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deserter should increase everytime you leave a bg, only ticks down online, is account wide and resets monthly.
Too many players fiending for a “win” and having minimal interest in actually piloting their character. Leaving a BG is far better than afking/idling though.
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The solution is to address the problems of badly designed BGs, Griefing/Camping to make BGs so fun you want to stay in them!!!
Harsher penalties doesn’t fix the BGs. This is the wrong mentality to just make a bigger penalty instead of fixing the problem. If leaving WG gave me a 6 month deserter I’d still do it. I can just play a better game in the next 6 months then come back and see if it’s still trash.
Harsher penalties fix nothing! It just hurts the community overall and increases Ques.
Lets fix the problems, bring back blacklisting. Fix the Epics design. Stop backfilling dead BGs. Let losing BGs close early.
You don’t know that camping will happen though. When you lose SR and you leave, you are leaving before anything happens. You aren’t leaving a losing BG. You are leaving because you aren’t steamrolling your opponent.
You have states time and time again that you do not like WG. You do not like IoC. You do not like Ashran, and you do not like playing objectives on AV. STOP PLAYING EPICS MAN
Just queue for whatever you want! You clearly dislike nearly all the battlegrounds available.
Ashran mostly hinges on the first teamfight too - whoever wins ROC at the start almost always wins in pugs-vs-pugs (“snowball effect” with winning side getting all the goodies, items, fragments, etc)
AV is the only map out of the rotation that still has some back-and-forth to it and isn’t decided by “the first teamfight”
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sure. only if i can vote kick players who aren’t geared enough to contribute to a win before the gates open.
have some self respect or at the very least respect for your team.
Ugh right? I hate it when people are undergeared in a casual battleground where they can improve their gear. Drive me nuts! I can’t believe these guys have the nerve to level to 60 and not immediately gain Combatant gear at the least!
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I do like Ashran it’s the only Epic BG we have. Where actual PvP happens.
If we can fix Epic BGs so they aren’t so bad that would help Deserter enormously. How can you not see this 
Going to Que random for the bonus. If I get a bad BG just gonna leave because we don’t have Blacklisting. This is what the majority of the player base does. We aren’t going to stop till the Devs fix it.
THIS IS A BLIZZARD PROBLEM THEY HAVE TO FIX!!
This is really simple. Blizz has work to do to fix many issues with BGs and offer QoL things like Blacklisting and stop Backfilling dead BGs.
We do know that will happen though. These BGs are atrociously designed. This is a design problem for the Devs to fix. Most players leave as a result which then causes these awfully designed dead BGs to be backfilled and makes those players leave. Creating a Que issue because it’s putting an unnecessary amount of players on Deserter.
It’s the Devs job to make BGs actually fun again. It’s been many years. If BGs and PvP is actually good then people will stay. In DF PvP will be terrible because nothing has changed.
Ok then queue for Ashran! There’s you’re blacklisting.
No, you are part of the problem! People leave in mass not because of blacklisting, but because they failed the first push. Enemies cap the flag first? Leave. Enemies get 3 of the nodes? Leave. Enemies get Hangar? Leave. Enemies get SR? Leave.
Blacklisting isn’t going to solve this. Let’s call it like it is… These are lazy players that want a quick win and go.
The only problem that has made this worse is the endless grind with upgrading gear, which will be gone in DF. The two things we need are
- Harsher penalties for leavers
- Games left need to be counted as losses in your stats
The latter because another reason for people to leave early is their precious stats that ultimately do not matter.
Wrong we don’t get the rewards which is why everyone does Random BGs for the Conquest and extra honor. So we will keep Queing Random and leaving bad BGs till the Devs fix it.
/common sense.
You are just wrong. The players aren’t the reason why BGs and PvP is terrible the last few expansions. It’s the Devs. It’s failed design philosophies. It’s lack of QoL to make BGs engaging or fun.
Blacklisting fixes a huge problem and reduces Que times enormously. Furthermore it gives the Devs data on “How to fix the BGs that everyone hates” or REMOVE THEM!
If nothing changes then nothing changes and PvP and BGs will suck for another expansion.
This doesn’t fix anything. It never will. It will only hurt a PvP community that is already suffering. If you can’t see that then you are part of the problem.
They need to change the design of ALL Epics and fix several of the existing BGs. They need to add Blacklisting and Stop backfilling dead BGs where 20% of the players left. Then add some new BGs/Brawls after everything is fixed to bring excitement back to PvP. (Players will stay in BGs if PvP is actually good)
You are all over these forums talking about “strategy” and “How to fix BG’s” but let’s look at the facts here.
- You have openly admitted that you do not play objectives.
- You have openly admitted that you leave battlegrounds that you do not have the upper hand in
- You have openly admitted that you leave rated solo queues when you are losing
But sure, let’s not have deserter penalties so players like you can continue your toxic behavior. You go on and on about how if BGs were more fun then you wouldn’t leave them. But always show that you aren’t leaving battlegrounds because they aren’t fun, you’re leaving because you are losing.
And even here, in a thread about a surrender button. You, the king of “I’m losing let’s bail” is advocating for it. Surprise surprise.
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