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How it was hotfixxed in the past 24h?

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It is 100% an exlpoit. And hiding it should be looked at as a possible ban of raid leadership or anyone that helped the mage.

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People are talking about Max switching his view from Imfiredup and going dark today as if the bugged mage hero talent wasn’t patched out like a day or two ago and Imfiredup isn’t even doing it anymore because of that lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1fmc6ii/comment/lo9x3e4/

As of 2:13PM PST/11:13PM CEST, the underlying bug has been fixed.

And it was reported on the PTR.

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Emergency tuning change. Because they couldn’t have players think that was the correct way to play Spellslinger (even though it is).

The dot damage is so bad it’s actively harmful to the spec. How is THAT NOT A BUG.

Seriously, I would actually reconsider using the talent on my mage if it wasn’t changed, I can make @focus macros and have a dedicated spot for a focus frame because I heal and pvp. But no, what actually happened is that Spellslinger has now been broken. By a hotfix.

I simply don’t believe he’s doing anything bannable.

I use “abnormal” as doing something different from the intended use of a system or feature.

  • Macros are very common. He didn’t do anything weird with macros.
  • Custom UIs are very common. He didn’t do anything weird with the UI, like accessing debug tools to display coordinates during Raid Combat.

That isn’t “abnormal” in a way that makes me think it should be bannable.

You’re describing as if he did a macro to either interrupt the cast on target or focus with a key modifier.

But I don’t think you understand exactly what was done, nor did you actually watch the video I’ve linked where Dratnos explains it.

Or read anything about it at all. So, just a waste of time.

I work with medical device/pharma and QA is considered one of the most important departments because of the risk of lawsuits and bad press.

But, you are right, I’m sure Blizz looks at it like who cares if our game is buggy as long as the money is flowing. Part of that money flowing is gold token sales that people use to pay for carries. Without a way for carry guilds to beat the latest tier and gear up quickly the money for those carries would lag.

Pure conjecture on my part but maybe Blizz keeps some of the exploits in the game to help the carry guilds in these first weeks before fixing them. Or just incompetence. Probably just incompetence.

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For real, I guess I’ve been exploiting this entire time as a healer because I made macros for all my abilities to be mouseover and be both healing and damaging abilities in one button depending on who I’m targeting. Better ban me then too lol

And again, this was reported on the PTR a lot, and Blizzard didn’t fix the way this ability worked if it wasn’t supposed to work this way. Then they did fix it after claimed it was an exploit, so now it doesn’t work that way anymore.

This is not the same at all as watching Gingi openly exploiting the renown bug ON STREAM and literally talking about how he knew it was an exploit as he did it in genuinely the most egregious way I’ve ever seen.

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Never targeting the boss as DPS in a raid is abnormal. What feature for DPS would Blizz implement that you would never target the boss in a raid encounter?

And then hiding it.

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/focus [harm]
/cleartarget
/cast [@focus] Attax

Wow that was hard. I had to open up my macro list in order to remember if it’s /focus or /setfocus.

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That’s disingenuous. It is not just making a simple macro. And you know it.

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Get outta here you’re spreading around known exploits!!!

Also totally forgot to add that Liquid didn’t even get a kill when this “exploit” still existed, they didn’t get the kill on the boss they were working on until it was patched out. Wasn’t even relevant, not much of an exploit if they didn’t even get anything for it lol.

Alright. The troll apologists are back to the thread. Time to report and move on.

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Imfiredup isn’t maliciously communicating with the server. He’s using the client normally.

It’s really that simple.

Macros are not cheats, no matter how much clickers and 'ban all addons!!!" types think it’s inscrutable sorcery to use them.

So get that right out of the way.

All that’s left is CHOOSING to not apply Spellslinger’s dot damage because it is so worthless (fix that?) and tends to expire before it can stack (fix that?) that preventing it from even firing is somehow preferable. And because it fired at player’s target instead of the spell’s target, there was a way to control it that was badly needed. Still is needed.

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Exploiting a bug is cheating and bannable unless you think it shouldn’t apply to the elite.

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Ultimatums are unproductive.

What he did is certainly weird, but it isn’t bannable. It’s just weird, not bannable.

Yeah but it was cheating. They knew it was a bug and they did it anyway. People have been banned for far less.

That the mage in question should be banned is not up for debate. They should be banned for at least enough time to not rejoin RWF.

The question is who else in the guild knew and supported it.

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Specify what part is cheating. Healers and PVPers cast at things that are not their target all the time.

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Considering the only thing they ever do is a slap on the wrist, yes, that’s exactly what Blizzard is telling them. Which is why they keep doing it.

Why not exploit if the only punishment is a 4 day ban, when it might get your guild the world first kill?

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