You are not wrong. That post addresses part of the issue - which is the discipline system. I think most people realize that the Blizz system uses Blizzard game logs, not third party platforms. They get that.
What I think some people want an answer to is for the Devs to step and say if they are OK with what is going on or if they plan to change it.
What they might not realize, is that guilds working together in alliances is as old as Vanilla and happened back then too. We had Vent and we had in-game private channels.
A lack of answer from the Devs likely means they are going to go with the old past method - that unless they mis-use in-game systems, Blizz canât/wonât step in.
It is common to see people show up in CS wanting a player banned who annoys them (corpse camp, steal nodes, etc). Those players are not breaking the rules though⌠it can be hard to hear.
Yes. That is the stance Blizzard takes regarding abuse of the reporting system. It does result in suspensions usually as a first punishment. However repeated abuse can lead to longer suspensions or even account closure.
Regardless of anything you sayâŚi myself saw on bigglesworth the system being abused to get people muted AND banned. If that was due to an automated system or a rapidly acting gm who âmade a missclickâ is of no consequence to the person being banned for 7 days due to abuse of the report feature, or squelched for multpiple days for the very same reason. With this same system it would take days or longer for the person to get their ban lifted and to date none of the people i know who participated in the âright click reportâ mafia had an actions taken against them.
Bottom line it puts the power in the hands of large groups of people and make it easy for them to bully people literally off the game, even if for a short while. All this is done because blizzard wants to save some $$. Itâs a disgusting system that yet again people said would be abusedâŚand IS being abused, but nothing is being done.
well this is not a group running around strip mining the entire zone of trade resources this is an organized group purposely disrupting the rights of outsiders keeping them from enjoying the event which is suppsoed to be meant for all to enjoy and you really expect them to be happy with it?
any other time this kind of behavior occurs they are subject to being sanctioned for violating the rules but hey Blizzard decided its ok this time and frankly this kind of open support for such only serves to reaffirm what people have said go ahead and break the rules Blizzard wont do anything so its only profitable to keep doing it
Blizzard should be ashamed of themselves as a whole for not only encouraging but promoting this kind of disruptive gameplay to continue
Unless they say otherwise, PLAYERS canât get anyone actually suspended from the game. That takes a GM to press that button.
Believe what you want. I canât stop you of course.
Again, this thread is not really for this. What you think are ârightsâ may not be so in the eyes of the Devs. This is a unique event. There is a reason there was usually only one Scarab Lord per faction per server back in the day. If memory serves, and I am old so maybe it does not, the whole point was for the ENTIRE faction to unite behind the chosen champion. That is what the resource gathering and all the rest of it was about. Not shockingly, our Scarab Lords were people from the top raiding guilds of each faction. Also I feel really old right now.
Note - I was a well grown adult working a very challenging job back then with a lot of business travel. I did the resource farming pretty hard in my down time to contribute, but was not there for the gates. I was busy that night. So, if I am wrong, someone can correct me about how many Scarab Lords were on Mannoroth.
These two things donât make any senseâŚyou canât say âno one was abusing the systemâ andâŚâwe found some people abusing the systemâ at the same exact time.
oh you meant the ones that paid the most gold for that right?
you want another example of Blizzards turning of a blind eye when players caused massive zone disruption? remember the zombie invasion prelaunch event for Wrath?
100s of people in nearly every questing zone purposely killing any low level npcs players and whoever got in their way
new players couldnt quest they couldnt leave the zones and they couldnt even enjoy their game because the entire event was littered with bodies everywhere in fact it became so disruptive nearly 40% of active subs were dropped and several new players to game also quit on their first day
it got to the point the only thing Blizzard did was end the event a week early no blue comments no apologies for underestimating the immaturity of such players no just a simple early pulling of the plug in a once in a lifetime epic event that was ruined by giving the wrong people too much power and expecting them not to abuse it
It is not really fishy and we see it all the time.
TWO things can be true. People are mass reporting. Those people get caught and actioned.
The person did get suspended by a GM but the suspension was not from those reports.
During the investigation both issues get cleared up.
We see it a lot regarding PvP play. Someone gets into it in PvP then assumes they got a Silence or suspension from being reported in retaliation. Turns out that the penalty was from something else entirely, and the fact they got mass reported (while an issue of course), did not cause the account action.
Well there you have it. Finally we can put this issue to rest. I understand everyoneâs frustration regarding the AQ event-- which was meant to be frustrating mind you, but letâs not let that cloud our judgement.
That was based off an event from Vanilla where players were able to take a buff from ZG back to town and kill players. It ended up being a case study. Lancet article about one of those studies.
I know exactly what I am talking about. I know they are separate. I am telling you the second one was intentional. I even tried linking you to the Lancet article about using games to model plague/pandemic spread among a population.
yes i even read the CDC report on the ZG plague a doctor wrote an entire paper using it as a guidelines outlining the real world applications and response as a comparison to an actual outbreak
Good! Now, extrapolate. What was the second event for? It was not JUST part of the game story. So yes, it was pretty bad for new players, but the whole thing was set up as a test environment and it was not just Blizzard involved.
The first was an accident people wanted to study. From that they had more questions. Hence the second.
Use of games to model all sorts of things is a fascinating subject actually.
