Going for another forum vacation so soon? Try to make some friends someday, just because you can get away with this attitude on the internet doesn’t mean you should.
There’s been absolutely zero indication that they’re going to use battlegroups.
Oh yeah, they’ll be split by region. US, EU; China, just like they are in Modern WoW. This isn’t battlegroups.
No, mainly because I DONT WANT TO FIGHT THE SAME PEOPLE OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
Cross realm provides the opportunity to fight different specs, different builds, different premades.
If anything was learnt from northdale, it was the same premade controlled the entire server’s bg and would steamroll AB with 2000-0 while the other side would get 0 honor from it. In WSG, they would get the 3 flags instantly and none of their group members would die. Only in AV you might stand a chance, but it ended as quick as it started, theyd rush in evading all towers and cap the flag, then cap the flag near boss and win within 10 mins.
This is what you will get on almost every server if you dont allow for cross-realm. Cross-realm will force premades to fight other premades and itll be better honor if you just pugged instead. We do not want someone to get rank 14 just because they made an inner circle of the most geared players and wont let anyone outside that group even stand a chance at it, because there is no competition for them that can slow them down and they just steam-roll through the ranks.
What community? It’s just a sea of people being murdered. Go duel outside or something. Server only BGs are abused by win traders aka the hardcore pvp community.
I get away with it in real life, too. Being intolerant of others’ stupidity isn’t some kind of crime. When you get in the real world and try to play the “wah wah someone was mean to me im a victim” card, you’re going to get laughed at. And passed over for promotions or simply just not hired.
Or are you suggesting that id get “beat up” in real life for calling people out on their BS? Good luck with that.
You mean, except that stickied post right at the top of this very forum that you astutely avoid ever aknowledging exists even though its been pointed out to you half a dozen times?
When you continually ignore a point that refutes your argument, dont think we dont notice.
No, but like has been pointed out to you a dozen times or so already, they already said its going to function just like it did in 1.12. You can literally read it right up there.
You’re just grasping on a semantic difference to try to not be wrong.
You are so pathetically desperate and so transparent. Its laughable.
You’re making what is called in intelligent conversation (and there’s maybe the issue, you’re likely not that familiar with that) a distinction without a difference.
Doesn’t matter if they call it a Battlegroup. Doesn’t matter if they call it a Buttercup. Yes, it will “only” be separated by regions - because there aren’t enough servers to justify more than a single group
But as theyve already stated, it will work like it did in 1.12
Unless you have some info that contradicts what is in the stickied post above, and can link that up…
you’re wrong.
Full stop, end of story, doneski. No amount of goalpost shifting, whinging, complaining, or semantic twisting will change that. Just own it and move on. Everyone already knows. But hey, why admit you’re wrong, or come up with a real argument, when you can just abuse the reporting system and try to get someone banned? (Which you already tried once, and failed. They reversed the ban in all of 12 hours once i pointed out that you were baiting people so you could try to get them banned). I wasn’t posting because i was out of town doing, like… work, man.
One of my gigs involves working fan conventions, and i had 3 back to back to back. I just got home Sunday night.
Cross realm bg have and will always be a death nail for community. I have always hated them. Large pop servers should not have to be inflicted with cross realm bg ever
In other words, it will work exactly like it does in Modern WoW. BG’s are seperated by region in Modern WoW. You’re the one trying to make some distinction by calling it “battlegroups.” Modern WoW battlegrounds are simply seperated by region: NA, EU; China, etc etc. The Oceanic realms are paired with the NA realms as it’s all the same “region.” Classic is going to work like this, there isn’t going to be “Shadowburn” or “Ruin” battlegroups. It’s going to work EXACTLY like Modern WoW.
I never reported you, I just recognized the absence of your trolling while you were chomping at the bit to get back to it.
There is no “we” in your argument, it’s only you. You’re the only one claiming there’s going to be battlegroups in Classic.
As much as I’d like them to scrap CRBG’s it’s not going to happen. I’m mad that the favored factions on 80/20 imbalanced servers get to have their cake and eat it too, but if you look at any of the other threads (AV 1.12) you’ll see that Blizzard isn’t putting any more effort into this they’ve already made their money with minimal effort. They’re going to stick to that formula until it stops working.
It’s not a battlegroup then, is it? Battlegroups were groups within a region. I’m going to put this into point form with the hopes that you can understand it.
Modern WoW:
Battlegroups no longer exist. The NA/Americas region consists of servers with timezone designations in NA, Mexico; Brasil and Australia.
Battlegroups had about half the number of realms that each region has in Classic. Your claim:
is wrong.
Here’s another statement that shows you don’t know what you’re talking about:
Modern CRBGs are separated by region. Players on EU servers do not play with players from the Americas, nor do they play with players from the Chinese region.
TLDR; CRBGs in Classic will function exactly as they do in Modern WoW. Each region will be separated from the others but there will not be battlegroups within the regions. All realms in a single region will be placed in the same battlegrounds, just like Modern WoW.
It’s amazing the lengths people will go to argue something so obviously wrong. Seriously, what were you trying to argue? You contradicted yourself quite a lot in those rather disconcerting posts you made.
Classic CRBGs will function exactly like Modern CRBGs, unless someone can link something that states otherwise.
No xrelm any thing !!! Xrelm was the start of Wows down fall . Why play classic if they are going to add it next it will be LFR Phasing and so forth . Watch what you ask for .
OP here:
I’d just like to say that it seems most people are interpreting what I said as “No cross-realm BGs ever”
I said AT FIRST. For a period of time. That way we get the benefits of playing vs your server-mates for a while before shifting into anonymous battlegroups with a bunch of randos.
If you want to address an issue, address the one that relates to doing it in phases, not just analyzing cross-realm BG’s in general over and over.
Is this supposed to make me say “ok, we don’t need cross real bg’s because Bulvar’s server is balanced!”? No, of course not. Do you think Blizzard is going to look at it that way? No, of course not.
Remember when i said you were being pedantic about semantics and making a distinction without a difference?
ANd that you literally never addressed that?
And now you’re doubling down on doing exactly that.
Some Battlegroups had 35+ servers in them, so… no? At best, im off by a small amount (20-35%).
Battlegroups were also separate by region. So what is your point here?
If you’re trying to go after “which doesn’t care where you come from” - you might want to actually read the thread, as this was in response to the difference in modern CRBG technology and Battlegroup technology.
Modern CRGB technology does not care what server you come from and makes no attempt to match you with people from your server first, before it throws you into the general pool. Battlegroup technology DID try to match you with people from your server first and only after it could find no match within a certain amount of time, did it throw you into the general pool.
Except Blizzard has said it will function exactly as they did in 1.12, in a post, in this very forum, stickied at the top. Which you refuse to even aknowledge exists because it obliterates your “argument”.
Which. Is. Irrelevant.
Try to follow along. I know reading isn’t your strong suit, but try to keep up.
It will function using the 1.12 Battlegroup technology, not modern CRBG technology.
If it walks like a Battlegroup, talks like a Battlegroup, finds parties like a Battlegroup… its a Battlegroup.
The irony here is that you’re describing you, and you think you aren’t.
That you are wrong. That you are relying on semantic crutches in desperate attempt to not be wrong.
Here, ill paraphrase your semantics for you:
“But its TECHNICALLY one group so its TECHNICALLY not a Battlegroup even though it will be using the Battlegroup technology from 1.12 and work like it did in 1.12. But TECHNICALLY they didnt use the word Battlegroup so TECHNICALLY im not wrong.”
Thats you.
You mean like the posts above by Blue, that are stickied? Weird.
I quit before cross realm BGs ever existed so its bizarre to me that classic plans on having them. Sticking to no cross server BGs will fix alot more problems than it will create and stays true to the original vanilla experience.