Sub rogues secretly broken burst right now

Blizz doesn’t read the forums so I’m safe making this post

I’m at 100% mastery and with rank 3 blood it’s absolutely absurd the damage this spec does now.

Like imagine u were a warlock and could pump out 3 chaos bolts in 3 seconds

This will only get stronger as the expansion goes on as I get more mastery. Did blizz plan this from the start ??

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Of course they did

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Ahh I see the meta is evolving organically.

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The spec seems to feel a lot better if you go for stacking vers>=mastery since mastery is nerfed by 20% in arena. You typically want both those stats on as much gear as possible. Having 20% vers with 70% mastery feels very good.

Idk if ud wanna give that stat prioritization a try but it feels good

I wonder if that red card that distributes your stats based on your logic board from the mechagon thing would invert your mastery and versa, and if that would be a damage increase.

I think it works like that ToT lei shen trinket but im not positive.

It’s much better to stack mastery and Crit as blood of the enemy is your best essence. I can see why you would enjoy vers though for more consistent dps on your target.

Crit is good and blood of the enemy as well for sub in PvE but I don’t know how well that really translates to PvP

Anyways since Rdruids are still god tier (actually even better with full gear/traits), I don’t see sub rogue being useful anyways

Conflict rank 3 double vers in stuns will be azerite fort 2.0

Blood3 minor is pretty bad and your only getting that crit modifier every 2 minutes. Playing conflict will be more consistent for letting you have 3 good minors like Conflict Major // Lucid minor // Ripple minor.

Also what most people have overlooked is that the double defensive verse is tied to major not minor and that will be the most damp defensive option so it will see play.

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it really sucks that the only vers+mastery pieces are from pve…

Would be nice if the needed itemization was actually supported by pvp gear!

I don’t agree with that but I respect your opinion.

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Isn’t subtleties strength based around setting up your dance and burst windows? The bonus crit modifier seems to be right up that alley Are you saying it’s better to build around sustained damage instead?

That essence has 1.5min CD. If the other team plays around it (which most 2500+ teams will do), you’re dead in the water. Plus it’s not like it’s a Combustion giving you 100% crit, it gives 25%. At most you’re going to have like 55~60% crit inside that cooldown. Not really worth imo.

P.S.: God I miss Phantom Assassin. Blizz legit pruned the only PvP ability that made sub do dam.

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Yep, the class devs are all savant geniuses playing 87D chess. This was all planned out since vanilla.

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