Sub rogue viable

are they viable too many assa rogues over 1 mill psrses so im changing my rogues spec just wanna know if sub is decent

What does ā€˜viable’ mean to you?

Can you kill Kel’Thuzard as a Subtlety Rogue? Yes
Can you get to Gladiator as a Subtlety Rogue in 5s? Maybe
Can you parse 99.999999% and land a Swedish bikini-model wife as a Subtlety Rogue? Probably not

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Parsing as a sub Rogue would put you against all sub rogues so yes you can parse a 99.

Did you confuse an ā€˜AND’ with an ā€˜OR’?

At the 99th percentile, Sub is 16% worse than Assassination on Patchwerk on warcraftlogs. It’s not really an accurate representation because there’s so few Sub Rogues that the sample size is small and the number of speed running guilds with a Sub Rogue is likely 0.

The actual difference in DPS is probably somewhere from 5-10%.

im just tired of trying to go up agisnt 1 million sin rogues every week in parses

Well, go Sub and compare it to your Assassination parses and post your logs here. I’m curious to see how well you perform relative to your prior parses.

WOULD YOU HURRY UP AND MAKE A CRACK AT FROSSTTFFIRRE ALREADY!?

I defeated him he put me on ignore

What’s wrong with the assassination being popular? I mean if you like the spec just play it. It’s already the best this tier

Any build, or playing with no build, is ā€œviable.ā€ The problem is that they aren’t all competitive. People confuse these words and I’m not sure why. They are aren’t exactly spelled similarly or anything.
Viable: You can get the job done, no matter how bad you are at it.
Competitive: You are actually good at the job compared to everyone else or every other build.

Well, here’s the thing, is it viable if everyone is that ā€œviableā€ class and playing it as bad as possible?

Would you meet DPS checks? Because at the end of the day, anyone and everyone can get carried. Somebody could be doing less dps than a tank and because they cleared people say it’s viable.

If you only care about parses than go sub. If you want to deal maximum dps to speed up raids, go assa

If you want to not play the glue sniffer spec (assa) then play combat. Sub is active trolling.

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Why is this a competition that matters? :man_facepalming:

Why would you go sub in a raid? You can just spec swap between assa and sub. You use the same weapons.

No reason to go sub.

I don’t think sub is decent but I may be wrong.

Sub is trash compared to the other specs but you could still go sub and do more dps than frosstfire pretty easily so maybe see if there’s an opening in his guild and it wouldn’t be hard to get his spot.

Well you can for sure do more dps than Knaztor cause he is a warrior. Even if Knaztor plays really well on Warrior your sub rogue will do more dps.

So I guess that is a good rationale for bringing a sub rogue :slight_smile:

I feel like playing a spec JUST so you can parse higher is kindof weird. Why wouldn’t you rather be number 1 or 2 on the charts with your guild, rather than number 1 or 2 on a website against people you don’t know and have never met.