Ok, is this game a joke? Are Sub Rogues considered a hybrid spec now? Why does a class/spec that has tools to counter everything ALSO need so much self healing?
You don’t have to create a whine thread every time a new idea pops into your head.
Yeah I have to.
Agreed. Having multiple stacks of both vanish and shadow dance, along with finishing moves reducing the CD of shadow dance, Soothing Darkness shouldn’t heal 30%. Or it should only proc once per minute or something.
30% HoT really isn’t that crazy
Why does a class that already has 30 diff tools for surviving also able to top themselves
Sub can regen 65% of their total health every 30 seconds between recuperator (15%), Shadow Dance (~30 sec cd if spamming finishers-30% heal), and vial (20%). It requires only 1 extra gcd from their normal dps rotation and has zero counterplay.
This isn’t even taking into account the fact that they have 2 vanishes which each heal for 30%+provide a 30% absorb+reduce cd’s of other abilities by 20 sec (some are less due to pvp nerfs from Outlaw in SL).
And none of that is taking into account their other defensives such as evasion, step, cloak, stuns, blind, gouge, who knows what else I am forgetting. That level of healing on this spec/class is simply not ok.
Totally agree. I feel like sub rogue self-healing is particularly egregious for exactly the reasons you state: the rest of their kit is already so strong. They have so many ways to just avoid / stop incoming damage between their own defensives and CC that getting to heal SO much in between all of this just seems nuts.
This is precisely why ALL forms of defensive utility needs to be taken into account when balancing. Like some classes have half a dozen mitigation tools, escapes, invulns etc. ON TOP of crazy self healing. You can’t have at all. Right now pure dps classes have more tools than hybrids, while also being 10x more lethal. It’s baffling.
Bumping this thread as it is still relevant and frustrating.
rouges can just 1 v 2. top cc, top healer, top 1 shot
you all deserve this for spamming threads about how bad sub rogues were in the beta