While I can go participate in content, they are required for general execution. To most others points, they’re basically required for the content that I play.
Then congrats, by proxy, in order for OP to not be bothered by addon, you’re not only suggesting that OP plays their class like a bumbling fool with no trackers, but you’re also suggesting neutering their awareness in instanced content. The issue is that you can’t just say that somebody needs to do or not do something, simply because they can, without considering the consequences.
I don’t like speed limits sometimes, but that doesn’t mean that I get to ignore the pressures that compel me to comply to them. There are drawbacks to non-compliance in an established system. Rules and laws, regardless of how soft or firm they are, are only enforcable if there can be consequences leveraged. In WoW’s case, a lot of the time, missing addons will leave you looking at exclusion from effective static groups.
WoW’s ecosystem is currently in a state where addons are more or less required in order to have effective gameplay, that doesn’t hold both yourself and your team back. A goal oriented player doesn’t really have the option to opt out of addons if they want to reach their goals effectively.
There’s a breakpoint, at idk, upper heroic raiding and about +5 mythic dungeons (after the squish), where not having an appropriate UI and mechanical trackers means you’re playing the game as a second class citizen.
I can say with 110% confidence you are not doing any content where addons are required, because if you were doing difficult content addons would be the last thing on your mind to gripe about.
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This is a great take
They’re really not required unless you’re doing cutting edge content
So why is that such a struggle?
It takes like five seconds to go into curseforge and install / update an addon. It’s genuinely as painless as it’s ever been.
Sure, setting up an addon might take a bit in the very beginning.
Is it great the game has difficulties that addons help solve? well, no, but it is what it is. If ya don’t like it, don’t play it. Fine to complain about it, but at the end of the day, you can only raise attention to what you perceive to be an issue, and that’s about it.
“Optional*”
*Required when doing X content; all content examples I did previously
Yea, I mean… exactly. I don’t disagree with you.
I’m saying I won’t play the game because of it. It’s refunded… it’s done. I don’t know how I’m able to respond still because the refund processed lol.
Going through and setting up a UI, WeakAuras, etc. is time consuming to get things started. If I want to go queue solo shuffle, there’s a noticeable difference of having Gladius and not. WeakAura’s are essential. While they’re probably not essential sub 2K (maybe even higher, whatever), they eventually do become so, and the game is more fun with more streamlined information being provided to you.
It’s not fun not playing the game… and these types of things are detracting from playing the game. In arena especially, it’s like playing someone in chess but they can see moves ahead of you because they information (dr trackers, etc.).
99% of the people saying “Who cares about addons” are basically pet collectors.
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It’s a lot lower than CE, friend. Keystones start to massively benefit from a WA pack at a pretty low level, depending on the affixes, and there’s usually a couple bosses in the second half of heroic that will absolutely demolish players without personal awareness. Been in a few too many mom and pop AOTC guilds that drag 3-7 players over the finish line kicking and screaming. Addons will benefit all players at all skill levels with increased awareness and reduced cognitive load. If a player is a mid-mythic player raw, they could probably be low CE with addons. If a player is a 6/9h player raw, odds are they can get AOTC with the right setup.
And most importantly, there’s no drawbacks to addons. They’re legal, not cheating, and effectively a baseline standard for objective oriented gameplay. Opting out is a personal choice that will harm your ability to clear individual pieces of content as well as hinder your social opportunity as you climb ranks.
So, anyone with a pulse, doesn’t need addons. (for heroic.)
A 6/9H player just hasn’t joined the right group.
Absolutely not.
I always find this argument weird because a warrior dps I play with from time to time who is towards the top of the fury warrior solo shuffle ladder to my knowledge only plays with Gladius and I think Omnibar. No dbm, no weak auras, no details.
Previously I played with a feral druid who was all purple parses in heroic raid, and all +20s in keys, who only used trp and narcicist.
I guess you could argue that elite title in shuffle and 12/13 keys (this season) and portal keys in old seasons isn’t the top end of game content, but it’s higher then most people seem to reach that complain about addons being a requirement.
Editing to add that I do think weak auras and a few addons should be baked into the game, but I feel like people would still complain that they need to be set up.
TFW your TLDR is longer than the post itself…
There are no barriers, you don’t “need” addons to gain entry to anything. Sunday is tomorrow.
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Haugsp: Well, technically you probably do need certain addons for some of the hardest of content/goals.
GD: Why are you oppressing us with your vicious elitism?!?!
Also though,
GD: You don’t need any addons to play the game.
Also GD: You went private on raider io? Declined.
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There are zero addon requirements.
I don’t think I’ve ever been as confused and/or as gaslit in GD than I have been in this thread.
Like the idea that me saying “if you don’t play in this content, maybe you don’t actually know what this content requires to succeed” is some radical or offensive comment is just mind boggling to me
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TFW the TLDR is to summarize 195 replies and not the original post.
I don’t play with addons at all in dragonflight because they are generally too much of a pain with the constant updating and bug issues.
which are the required addons?
the answer is NONE are required
We’ve already discussed that while blizzard does not require you to install them to play the game, socially they are required for specific content.
Next.
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I just want to remind folks that back in WoD , folks claimed you didn’t NEED addons then either.
Meanwhile, anyone trying Mythic Archimond would cuss you out for such blasphemy.