Streamers aren't worth listening to

when the idiot streamers who quit wow to cause a scene start making 0 dollars on other streams they try and start up, they will come back to their fan base.

I like what Hazzlenutty Games streamer did- she knew to differentiate what a few people wrongfully did at the company from the hundreds of other good people who never did any wrong, the hundreds of other women and men with families that put great work into blizzard and don’t deserve abandoning.

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WoW doesn’t get streamers the most viewers or the most money. I know that’s a shock, but there are other games that get way more attention and interest. And most people are there for those streamers and not really the games themselves.

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I realize this is off topic, and I’m sure I’ll be punished for it in the after life… but instead of watching someone like… well, whoever… you could always tune into this glorious sea otter stream: https://www.twitch.tv/marinemammalrescue

Streamers, like any other entertainment venue, they will follow the trends. They almost always repeat back what ever seems to resonate the most with viewers, regardless if it is true or not. Viewers = money for them. If WoW suddenly surges in popularity, you can bet they will all come back and act as it nothing changed.

Then you have the streamers that begin to buy into their own hype and think they are the ultimate source of whatever.

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I don’t watch them and never understood the fascination some people have with them but some people enjoy it so to each their own I guess.

You can treasure their opinion, and make it your own ethos.
They will still be a random person in a streaming website.

He was also invited to their media tour for Endwalker. Clearly SE appreciated all the free customers he gave them. lol They typically save those invites for those who can spread the word about their game well enough. He hasn’t been around in FF XIV long either which makes that somewhat impressive.

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A lot of people underestimate his influence in The gaming community.
I would say all the major final fantasy content creators at the time that’s all they were making videos about doing reaction videos to pretty much everything that he was doing.
People dismissing content creators and streamers like they’re nothing really don’t see it for what it is.

there was a lot of people from the final fantasy community that were totally against him coming to the community but the very first transmog competition that he had the turnout was bigger than anything world of Warcraft had ever done ( edit for clarification ) in regards to a transmog competition.

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Their “fan base” was quitting wow because they were bored or demoralized. If they start streaming wow again right now their viewers wouldn’t come back, because they don’t care anymore.

Imagine thinking that the streamers mind controlled people who were deliriously happy with the game into leaving. Imagine thinking that those streamers’ fanbase is still playing wow.

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Streamers are in the digital content industry what scrappers are in the engineering business.
They sell your own crap back to you making it look like something valuable.
Streamers are like instagram “influencers”, they make the dumb dumber, the shallow shallower, the creep creeper. Anything that gets them profit.
The best streams are the ones who can sugar coat the existing ignorance so it can be sold.

If you really pay attention to them, you will see that all they say is what “people want to hear”, and that often is translated by those people into “wisdom”.

And yet they get results. It doesn’t really matter whether anyone likes them or not. All it takes one popular streamer to hit a company where it hurts the most, that being their wallet.

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So generalizing streamers is ok…
Seems legit… because I promise you if I said something like all retail wow players are simps for blizzard and will eat crap if they served it up in the game.
People would ( and probably will ) have an emotional meltdown

Blizzard blames streamers for their own failure, just as they are still blaming the playerbase for their legal problems and the fact that they released an unpopular expansion by ignoring completely what their customers just might be willing to pay for.

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The difference between being some rando and being a personality is an agreeable following.

Does their opinion carry more weight than my own? I don’t believe so. But they have a small army of people willing to agree with their stance on something, while I’m just one voice.

If I were a business, who would I value more? The person with a following or the individual? Welcome to a consumer-driven system.

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The thing is: It is what it is.
It is what people are interested in. It is not that the streamers themselves are “dumb”, but they might be even smart to know dumb sells more than smart.
It is not a hard thing to understand.
They are not all the same, but the general public they want their work consumed must be considered by averages because they cant make a stream to each one.
What I said is not about how “bad” streamers are.
I said they are what they audience wants them to be.
Those who arent, soon find other things to do.

“Oh look another all Streamers are bad post!”

Why do you care what people care about ? Folks often not enjoy listening to other people that have been playing the game for a long time and have a firm understanding of it’s systems.

As a matter of fact most of the guides you read come SUPRISELY from folks that stream and talk about the game and how it work’s.

Now if you wanna understand why folks care it’s because of public perception, if folks aren’t streaming a game it gives the illusion that the game is dying or that holds nothing of interest for folks to play.

Now you may not feel that way BUT I would refer to game with high viewership and it’s popularity and those that have low viewership/none and their popularity. The two have a correlation that can’t be ignored

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dang son you mad mad

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Honestly society has shifted away from getting their entertainment from television I mean yes there’s still people that watch television but the gaming industry is now larger than Hollywood and the movie industry so people are going to gravitate towards people online who make content about the thing that they’re interested in it doesn’t make them stupid. I think watching television is stupid, but occasionally I watch it for a football or hockey game.

The only thing I watch TV for nowadays is football. Everything else I stream through Amazon, Hulu, etc. We live in a digital world now.

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Exactly, the next generation will have no idea what life is without being connected.
Gaming has and will change , wow will be like pac man some day. Collecting dust in the corner of someone’s basement while people are living in a digital realm via VR