Stratholm bots are so easy to see yet the same ones have existed on my server for 6 months, or since i transfered

[Esimpure-whitemane]

Why haven’t they announced that in NA? How many are those bots relative to how many there actually are? Why aren’t they hiring more people specifically to combat the bot problem?

Why are you so adamant there’s no problem when I can see it in game?

[Babieshark-kurinnaxx]

last time i played a game that was close to this lvl of dev incompetence was EvE Online. They flipped it around in less than a month, made it mandatory for devs to play the game, and made events of them blowing up botters loot and banning them as they watch it happen. and awesome, good for china, where does that effect us now? cuz um last i checked… oh yea thats right, china bliz is not the same one that does anything for us.

[Delimicus-heartseeker]

Okay so, China released the token a couple months back and the gold farmers there have started to migrate here. You understand that, right?

Okay, despite that they banned 200,000 bots in one week. Bots are playing 24/7, right? Do you think the situation is similar here? Do you think the botting situation here is similar to that of China?

[Esimpure-whitemane]

So why not release the token here? Also, again, how many is that 200k really? And how long until they’re back to botting?

[Babieshark-kurinnaxx]

considering i cannot find a single righteous orb that isnt from the bots, the botters on my server are even mocking the lotus changes and have a bot that is spam selling lotus in bulk saying “endless supply” so yea, idgaf about china, i care about all the other nations that have the culture of bots=bad

[Delimicus-heartseeker]

I’m getting to my point.

There’s something like 42 Classic servers here? If the situation here is similar to that in China and Blizzard wasn’t banning the bots like China is, wouldn’t there be 5,000 bots on each server right now?

[Esimpure-whitemane]

You’re rambling and not actually saying anything of value.

How is it then that the same bots are still online after months? And, again, what percentage of those bots is that 200k? And how long does it take them to just make more accounts? Or do they actually permaban?

And if it’s a problem with Chinese farmers, why is NA not region locked specifically to China?

[Delimicus-heartseeker]

@Esimpure-whitemane

You’re rambling and not actually saying anything of value.

I’m sorry that I’m speaking too much sense for you. I thought you could be reasoned with but I’ll just put you on mute and let you go about folding tinfoil hats up for you and your forum buddies.

[Esimpure-whitemane]

@Delimicus-heartseeker

I’m sorry that I’m speaking too much sense for you. I thought you could be reasoned with but I’ll just put you on mute and let you go about folding tinfoil hats up for you and your forum buddies.

You sound like a Flat Earther dude.

[Farnese-herod]

Does this guy not know that Chinese WoW is run by a completely different company and has nothing to do with Blizzard? Chinese WoW is operated by NetEase, a Chinese company (with more than four times the number of employees than Blizzard).

Blizzard doesn’t ban bots. Some trash third party company that modified skeletons into loaves of bread (actually true) to comply with the Chinese government’s restrictions apparently does. That’s PATHETIC.

[Esimpure-whitemane]

Also he refused to respond to anything and kept on constructing a completely irrelevant argument, and then bailed when we didn’t bite.

[Stopdisplz-azshara]

Why dont you come foward then and post some sources on how they tried to get rid of the problem? Stop making assumptions about me, too. I was asking for sources, you did not deliver. And it is the general consensus that Blizzard does not pay that much attention.

[Delimicus-heartseeker]

Here’s the most relevant one followed by a bunch of others. There’s way more responses besides these:

Vrakthris
4410 posts
Customer Support

“Additionally, the last action was not several months ago. We have various actions happening all the time, often throughout the month in both games.”

Customer Support in the Spirit of Classic

We’re going to end this here as all this back and forth is entirely unproductive. I’m afraid overall you may be operating on a bit of bad information, Leafie. Assuming any part of your “response from a GM” isn’t entirely made up for your own narrative, if a GM did at some point state that the email is used by Dev, I do apologize for the confusion. As most folks might be aware, the hacks email goes to our Hacks team, hence the aptly named address. They are the ones that do the lion’s share of …

@Orlyia

We don’t share those numbers anymore - but they are massive.

They do just fire up new ones to replace, but it isn’t a battle that we’ve ever stopped fighting.

There is truly only one way to ever STOP these guys, players have to stop giving them $. As long as they have a vested interest in returning, they will - and we’ll keep fighting them.

Bug abusers on Frostmourne OCE

Botters are met with extreme penalties, Almeria. When we can prove it. I sometimes wish we still published those numbers - but we don’t. I’ll just say, they are mindboggling numbers, but you’ll never know everything that is done behind the scenes.

Are bots not banned anymore?

Quite the contrary, they cost us an enormous amount - between the costs of fighting them, the fees that get attached to stolen cards used - and all the ill will from players. And just because we fight them, doesn’t mean they don’t come back. We do banwaves in the hundreds and thousands at a time. Within 2 days, or less, they come back - but we don’t stop fighting them, we continue to fight them. As I said, until there is no longer a financial motivation to do so, these will never go away an…

About time for a bot ban wave, ridiculous

If you see a bot, by all means report it. You need to watch what you spout as ‘facts’. We spend an insane amount of resources fighting these guys, have for years. The only real way to truly get rid of them is for players to stop giving them money. They’d disappear like a foul odor on a stiff breeze if there was no profit in it. In the meantime, we’ll keep fighting them.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/the-amount-of-bots-on-classic-is-unacceptable/534824/44

[Esimpure-whitemane]

Some of these people sound like Trump. And - again - why are the same bots running around Classic?

And are all these posts relating to Classic, or just retail?

[Farnese-herod]

Source: dude trust me

[Esimpure-whitemane]

He is right though, we won’t trust Blizzard just for saying something. Because they have a track record of lying to us.

[Ôwns-proudmoore (Ôwns)]

It doesnt help that players intepret things how they want to interpret them. Players holding Blizzard to promises Blizzard didnt actually make. Turning responses into their whining for attention for their own agenda. Not agreeing with the solution because it doesnt fit or match the solution they feel shouldve been used. Sometimes no response is a response. They ban in ban waves, this has been known for well over a decade.

Bots are like dandelions, you can mow them today but therell be hundreds more tomorrow. They have to break the program to create more work for the bots to operate.

[Stopdisplz-azshara]

Thanks,

but most of these posts refer to WoW BfA. Which is shameful enough. In any case, actions speak louder than words and when I see bot groups over bot groups running in and out of Stratholme I cant put much trust in Blizzard.

[Chucktaurus-kromcrush]

The first 4 letters of your name makes me chuckle in relation to this post.

[Beautia-azuresong]

Mages can bot STRAT now???