Story Forum Community Lounge (Part 1)

I’ve been feeling kinda stale with WoW lately, I usually play at least an hour or so a day but have struggled to find the gusto to log in. I usually taper off my playing a bit between expansions but now whenever I sit at my PC to boot it up I’m left blinking at the wall because I dunno what to do with myself. I also don’t play with anyone else so I don’t have the added draw of friendship to keep me comin’ back.

Trying to ho hum about which alt to spin-up, but I also still want all that sweet, sweet Venthyr cloth.

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The biggest problem I’m having with playing both factions is BG vertigo.

I’ve been leveling an Undead mage and Belf paladin along with a Worgen warrior and Dwarf Hunter and at one point accidentally saved the day in WSG because I ran into the Horde base thinking it was my own on the Dwarf.

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Yeah I’ve been just sporadically leveling alts to see content I’ve missed. The, no pun intended, lion’s share of Blue content is fresh for me. SL just does not work for me. I briefly trier running Torghast on my rogue and quit after 10 minutes.

I’ll certainly be spoiled for choice when DF comes up.

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This is the biggest/weirdest thing about being a cross-factional player. Running into bases that aren’t your own and getting clobbered, Getting thrown out of spots in Dalaran while idly trying to access portals, Clicking NPCs to talk to them but just accidentally punching them and then dying whilst also PvP flagging yourself.

I just picture some of my toons as absolute doofuses like that one Forsaken NPC that you encounter in Hillsbrad who is absolutely braindead and just enthusiastically yells in your face about everything, even when he’s trapped in spider webs. Bless his heart.

SL is one of the few expansions where I feel like everything I need to do is a chore. Normally I’m fine grinding and just jamming out to music or whatever but for some reason SL just makes me feel like I’m doing WORK which is the opposite of what I want to be doing while I’m trying to chill. I’ve considered joining a guild perhaps for the social aspect but the introvert in me hisses at the thought. (Also Moon Guard is the Wild West of servers when it comes to social interactions to say the least.)

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Oh I’m constantly running into the wrong part of Dalaran. I didn’t make an Alliance character for awhile as you used to be confined to one side on PvP servers and it never occured to me that might’ve changed.

So I’m certainly not low on fresh content. Currently I’m trying to finish every Cata zone. Then we’ll move up to MoP and so on. Plan is to wind up with a ish ton of characters with max honor.

I’ve of course have an undead for every avalible clsss. Followed by the Belf Paladin, Z Troll Druid and Orcish Shaman. And my hope is to unlock Kul Tirans on my Worgen and Velves on my DH or regular Hunter. Also finally unlock the NBorne on my Belf Paladin.

And the BG vertigo is a fun new experience lol. I deadass thought “Pffft this is the worst EFC I’ve ever seen” as I shot him dead in the Horde tunnel. Genuinely thought he was going the wrong way.

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Hot take maybe but Cata has some FIRE zones, I am a huge fan of Vashj’ir. I know it was not a fan favourite due to the underwater aspect but TBH I think it’s story outshines the clunkiness of having to swim everywhere. It’s too bad we never got the intended raid there.

Deepholm was also great, I love the concept of underground zones particularly because the landscape feels so alien in comparison to other parts of Azeroth but not SO alien that it feels like it’s from another planet. I feel like we were robbed of not having the Old Kingdom be a subterranean zone in WotLK!

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All the then max level zones are complete strangers to me outside Hyjal. Which I went out of my way to see because that’s a hugely important zone lore wise.

Otherwise I’d only poked arouns Uldum. And I was so happy that they set Horrific Visions there as when I was exploring I thought

Man you could have some crazy PvP in this sprawling tomb” and I was 100% correct.

Also haven’t seen most of MoP and WoD. Or most of the class halls. I’ve only finished Priest, Rogue, Lock, and DK. I probably started all of them but unless they had a mount I really wanted I didnt bother.

Definitely doing Warrior. Made another undead warrior to be RP’ed as a Vargul and need me a protodrake. Shame the undead one is inaccessible these days. Figure I’ll have him and my Dwarf be friends based on their shared hobby of picking fights with kaiju. Figure Viglauf could just throw Cearan at stuff.

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I envy your position in being able to experience old content as new content, I feel like I’ve squeezed every ounce of exploration out of this game that I possibly can, aside from finishing up my Loremaster achievement through BC zones. I still have some breadcrumbs left in Netherstorm and Blade’s Edge but I’m a chronic race/faction changer, particularly on this character so it often mucks up the progress. Someday I’ll commit… someday.

The class halls is something I should explore more, I’ve seen Priest, Mage, Shaman, Druid, Monk, Paladin and Hunter but I feel like Warlock, DH and DK would be right up my ooky spooky alley. As a tired goth it’s almost a crime that I don’t have a Death Knight, maybe that can be my new alt. Except then I have to pick a race which is a whole other fish to fry.

I always find it oddly heartwarming when Forsaken have unconventional friends. Like the DH/Warlock buddies that have been in that frienemies relationship since Legion. Adorable.

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The only real flaw is there is a tremendous amount of crossover in artifact quests. DK and Lock in particular have a nigh identical quest.

My favorite was by far Rogue. The finale where you’ve to sneak in enemy cities and assassinate a target was great. Even if the last one is a suicide mission.

This toon was friends with a Priestess of Elune he met in the Conclave. Led to a lot of amusing moments. More than once I had a MHP doing the “Die monster, you don’t belong in this world” spiel with Ben boredly critiquing the speech as trust me he’s heard a lot of these.

Only for him to immediately lose interest in his soon to be lunch because the Priestess turned up and he wanted to chat with his friend and colleague.

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Yeah, that was my one gripe about some of the artifact chains. Priest in particular with Light’s Wrath, it felt like another classes artifact quest but with Priest stuff squished in. With the lore surrounding Light’s Wrath, it’s a shame we couldn’t have stolen it straight from the Scarlet’s. Still annoyed that the Priest order hall ended up being an empty Naaru prison with one cool corner of candles. Shadow Priest representation felt abysmally low but I did love that Dark Iron fellow in the Xal’atath acquisition quest.

Love that approach, I imagine the Forsaken are so TIRED at this point of MHPs or just Scarlet diehards in particular. Just get out the pre-written checklist of inflammatory insults and have them submit their form to be promptly chucked into the nearest void. I’ve not RP’d this character as of yet, but I imagine her reaction to such would be equally as exhausted. “Oh for Void’s sake, the Sunwell is FINE.”

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The irony is this toon was in the Argent Dawn. I even got the Crusader title, tabard and all associated Argent mounts to prove it. So he got along rather well with some Paladins.

But he is unapologetically undead, firmly believes Lordaeron belongs to the Forsaken, and isnt averse to using dark magic or alchemical warfare to win if the situation calls for it. Plus I gave him a German (Alteraci) accent so, quite a few players just assumed he was a villain.

A favorite was when Tauren Hunters tracked him to his secluded Mulgore labratory. Which was secluded because he was studying diseases to cure them, and you don’t put a bioresearch site next to a population center. Decidedly sensible, non mad scientific labratory.

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I felt like Priest in Legion was just two things:

  • The Paladins’ helpless damsel
  • “Oooooooooh, balance of light and shadow is SO COOL”

Was it too much to at least allow us to change the color space to be Holy or Shadow or this stupid “both sides balance” abomination if that’s actually what we want?

Don’t mind me, bitter about what Legion did to the spec I mained since Wrath.

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I just found it amusing as the superior pairing is Priest and Warrior. If you’re playing with a Priest worth their salt you shouldn’t need healing spells of your owm.

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The classic three PvP classes are RMP after all, and Arms War introduced the mortal strike concept.

Though, god, it’s been so long since I was a serious (not good, but serious) pvper.

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Yeah, Priest is my favourite class in that it has a ton of lore variety between races and I felt like they really dropped the ball in Legion in that respect. I get that in Human lore, Priest is often a stepping stone to being a Paladin but most of the other Priesthoods aren’t like that. Making Priests play second fiddle to Paladins was so disappointing and really diminished the power that Priests have in their own respect.

Also making a Priestess of Elune defect to be a Paladin without ever giving us that race/class combo was a confusing plot point that didn’t amount to anything other than reducing the feeling of importance of Priestesses of Elune.

This would’ve made leagues more sense than asking for Paladin help, especially since they were reluctant to even give it to begin with. As a Priest, if I was in danger my first instinct would be to run to the nearest Warrior.

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Warrior, Rogue, Mage - really anything that can CC the DPS mauling me.

Speaking of Priests though it’s nice Disc got buffed. Still happy I did knuckle down and learn how to play Holy though. Now I can play all the specs. But nothing tops Disc.

Nothing like cornering an overconfident DPS;

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I REALLY need to re-learn Discipline because I always see these Disc priests absolutely shredding in duels outside Orgrimmar and it gives me real bad FOMO. I played Disc in both PvE and PvP during WotLK up to about mid-Legion and I was really bad at atonement when they introduced it so I shifted to Shadow.

I LOVE BGs though, when I still had a guild/friends that played it was my favourite thing to group queue for BGs but alas, I am the only insane one that keeps playing this game for some reason. Might be time to dust off ye ole’ bubbles.

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In the long long ago I never touched healing. I played Rogue, Mage and Hunter in competitive PvP from Vanilla to Wrath. Coming back in Legion I rolled a Warrior as that’s usually a good entry level start which I needed as the game had changed a lot in the intervening years.

I tried Priest on a lark and the precise moment I fell madly in love with it was in a WSG match where I mind controlled the EFC and sent him running straight into his pursuers.

Disc in Legion was absolutely fantastic. I still miss Light’s Wrath as a solid haymaket of a spell is pretty handy for DPS based healing. And oh baby that Overcharge effect. I didn’t even know about it until a Druid jumped me in Azsuna. I don’t know who was more shocked when I punched a whole straight through him with it.

When the Spec is well designed it gives you the “Save The Day” fun of healing without sacrificing the thrill of the kill. Holy I actually found myself liking. Only a handful of offensive spells but Chastise is both a nice stun and a solid damage spell that can easily finish someone off. Plus with Ascension and Fade you’re borderline untouchable.

Shadow is alright but it’s genuinely pretty crap one on one. Did get a lot better in SL though. It was just dumb in BFA as you had to build up to Void Form and unleash that if you’d fancy doing any serious damage with this DPS spec. But any half competent opponent would save their stuns or shields for that moment. So I really only had fun with it in larger scale PvP where I could sneakily vampire poke everyone then unleash an army of ghosts.

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I don’t really have a problem with the mechanics of new disc (though they’re certainly more difficult) – I just really don’t like how the spec’s identity became a forced Light and Shadow user followed by unpruning Shadow spells onto Holy. I feel like Holy spells for priests have a core issue currently where they’re expected to be boring spells and everything ‘fun’ is Shadow – everything impactful is a Shadow spell. Light’s Wrath will return finally, but it’s actually pretty light hitting compared to Mindgames, and the animation is kinda… underwhelming.

I generally like my spell effects to be monochromatic or at least complementary, not opposites.

Yeah, Disc has always had that good OOMPH to it which I’ve always loved. Overcharged Light’s Wrath was comical and gave me the same satisfaction as reflective bubble from the days of yore. Nothing like watching a Rogue crit himself to death on your bubble.

I’ve honestly never tried Shadow much in PvP, the odd skirmish during BfA when folks would pick me as an easy target while trying to farm badges, but otherwise not a ton of experience. My impression was similar to Moonkin back in the day where it was brutal if you had one clearcasting in the back just sniping everyone to oblivion, but getting close was a surefire way to cut them down. That can be fun in of itself in a BG setting but 1v1 it doesn’t have the same ring.

I also immensely enjoyed Shaman healing and Monk when it was in it’s heyday. Back when transcendence had no LoS and you could port between the top and bottom of WSG platforms was unreal. Maybe tinkering around with PvP can reignite my interest in WoW, not sure how they’ve been since they made the queueing process cross-factional.

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