Cry about it then I guess. I’m not switching my displayed character because you freaks didn’t play warrior during the rank 11->14 cycle and see how bad it actually was vs the premades and sweats.
Mortal strike with ashkandi was hitting for 350 on hunters during P5. You think I’m lying about the classes damage issues? For what? Everyone knows warrior was arguably only better than mage at pvp (squishy and no damage), and then mage got buffed and can now kill in a deep freeze. They were still squishy atleast. Unlike, hunter, boomie, sham, etc…
Also, are any of you for real thinking warrior beats anything in 1v1? We’re hard countered by a potion lmao. Limited Invuln literally eliminates the class completely. Especially if you’re on one of the busted classes that can kill during an invuln.
I did get a warrior to r14. Was easy and very strong just hooking people into my team then MSing them. Idk why u were struggling so hard. I just grouped with my friends and it was a blast. I didn’t feel weak at all.
“Oh just premade, warrior is so good when all you have to do is apply a single debuff and let everyone else do all the work”…
I hate you.
If you don’t understand the difference between “works in group play” and “works literally anywhere else”, see league of legends Ryze. And I’m using a loose definition of “works”. Relegating a damage dealer to relevance via supplying a single debuff because of atrocious balance decisions by the devs is braindead. Especially when things like, idk, killshot? Made it into the game. But god forbid we give warriors some number tweaks, that might be broken.
I’m genuinely amazed that they made warrior WORSE at it’s role in PvP than it already was in vanilla. Atleast we had damage before. Now we JUST provide MS.
Druids are dirty hippies.
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Ikanaide - I can understand you being piss cuz Warrior is not top tier, but Grresh and Kefka make them look hella fun.
Even in classic outside of group play what classes are you beating with ease 1v1?
Not about with ease. Even mages I had a respectable enough winrate against them up to AQ gearing because of the mind games you can get into with faps/resto pots/spider belt/ornate mithril boots/reflectors/nades/etc…
None of that is really relevant or usable in sod. You kinda just get blasted by damage. There’s not a lot of nuance to the matchups. Like really think about what you do vs a rogue in SoD as a warrior. They get the open, you can trinket ks but you’ll sit a full blind later for it (assuming they need it), most of them will just pop eva and face tank you, or lip and melt you during it. Your overpower isn’t that threatening, if you fear they trinket, what else can you do? Torment card rng? If you lip they just run off and reset.
I don’t think there was any class that I felt I had absolutely no outs in the match-up, even mage. Of course good mages could counter your outs and destroy you, but the tools were there and using them to disrupt could win you fights against less aware/prepared mages. And in SoD none of it matters.
Dude, Look up Nuffydeus on Wildstrike NE Warrior. He is by far the best warrior on alliance queue’n gives me a run for my money on my mage.
I havent fought Kefka yet on my mage. =) lol
Fought him several times tonight and he is definitely a handful.
I’ve only watched like 3 clips so far, (bro can these warrior posters actually post real videos and not cut off their entire ui to hide everything? I am old brother, I cannot be squinting this much to look at a video)
- he’s wearing 6p t1/core forge (idk which) with consumes rolling (atleast giants+food buff and in group with a feral? might just be stam scroll), and he crushes a rogue in pve gear in booty bay who does nothing except try to pve him? cast blind, pop lip, use literally anything other than slice n dice I hate that these are the clips I have to work with
- nice little 3v1 (almost, his friends come in a little too early) but one of the rogues appears to be in blues/greens, the other is also in pve gear, and then he hits the shaman who shows up late for 375 non-crit with dark edge (this is what i’m complaining about btw) with 10% damage dealt buff from t1 bonus…
- ab (mongoose, giants, food buff) charges a lock in full t2 (surprise surprise pve geared players take damage, more news at 11), can’t tell what that shaman is wearing (but he’s enhance so lmao, the only spec worse than warrior but he could just be ele/tank sham and be a god) but he pulls a hunter who has a bow from aq and then a whole bunch of dungeon gear.
I’m not going to debate his skill (I’m squinting to figure out what he’s doing with how small the screen video is), but like, you really can’t compare his highlights to the average experience. He’s probably a great player, but there’s just entirely too many classes right now that would hard wall him assuming the gear is even remotely equal. I had a great time when SoD queues were putting us in fresh AV’s, warrior is great for noob stomping, same as always. It just has very little skill expression and it’s even worse with the gimped damage we have in SoD making many match-ups straight up unwinnable once the other person has even a little bit of gear.
Ashkandi hitting mail for 350, Dark Edge hitting for 375, this is unacceptable. Surely we can stop arguing about this when people are chugging flasks and reaching 10k+ hp in bg’s.
I didnt even know he had videos… lol
I fought him in like 4 games last night and he has been the only warrior that has given me a run for my money on my mage. He has fap on me but I wouldn’t expect less from a warrior when fighting a mage. I just try and get a sheep off or Lip on him. =)
If you aren’t willing to use everything (consums, health pots) to ur advantage dont cry when you lose. (not you per say just talking in general).
I just dont agree with you that warriors are bad. Do they need an MS damage buff? probably put that might but them over the top.
The damage is too low brother. He’s wearing pve gear, using full consumes to get more damage and offset his garbage survivability. He’s got dark edge. And he’s doing LESS DAMAGE than I did in pre-raid (literally full blues with sgc), pre-rank (trinket wasn’t even available yet), with a DEMONSHEAR, in 2019. And most players had 2k-4k hp. Now they have 10k. Do you not see the issue? Not only that, the damage stats available in SoD are higher, because of the stat buffs on the items.
Again, warrior does fine into cloth, and fine into classes wearing pve gear (they’re missing ~3k or more hp), and exceptionally into players when war is gear advantaged. But there’s so many classes you stand absolutely no chance against because of SoD design and warrior’s awful damage.
Damage seems fine to me. You might be blinded by hatred from p1-ph5. lol
Im talking from fighting in ABs. Not from watching videos.
I have 10.2k health on mage. =)
Brother. I literally ranked in AB from 13->14 with an ashkandi. He hits for 25 more damage than I did when I was wearing full pvp gear. He’s using pve gear for a 10% damage buff + whatever stats he’s getting. And his damage still looks awful outside of hitting cloth/very low geared players.
I am speaking from experience and from watching his clips. The damage is awful on warrior. It needs armor pen ATLEAST and then might still need more. I hit mages for 1k, that’s hitting cloth. Rogues will dodge all your damage, druids have more armor than warriors. Hunters and shamans literally take 350 damage from an Ashkandi MS non-crit.
Well… we can agree to disagree. =P
Classic is the same thing. You arent beating good-great rogues, mages, locks, druids and I will even add paladins. If I remember correctly I didnt have any problems fighting warriors on my hunter. Fap? sit in frost trap. =)
I never said you would beat good-great players. But in SoD you’re auto-losing to lowest common denominator level gameplay. It’s disgusting. I’m genuinely so sick of arguing this. You told me to check out a guy, he has literal video footage of himself hitting a shaman in AB for 375 with a dark edge while rolling a 10% damage dealt buff from his pve tier bonus. If that’s not god awful to you IDK what else to say
He’s doing EVERYTHING warriors are always told to do, get more consumes, get more gear, have an insane weapon, and his numbers are still trash. He went far past the point of reason sacrificing most of his survivability to get even more damage. And it’s still bad.
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His survivability seems pretty damn good when I fought him in AB w/o a pocket healer, mind you.
I dont know maybe he was hacking. lol
Doubt it, probably full blood moon offpieces for stam because he’s definitely using t1 6p. I’ve died from full 10k hp in a deep freeze with no trinket. Mage has damage. It’s just still squishy, unlike the other actually broken sod classes.
And it GENUINELY HURTS ME, to call frost mage balanced. But it’s literally the most balanced pvp spec in SoD. I hate what these devs have accomplished.
Im freaking enjoying grinding on my mage. But, I hate the spamming icelance play style. Its just everyone is so bursty why not. lol
I should video some of my ABs. The control a frost mage has is insane and being able to heal themselves… OP!
Mage is good since the buffs for sure. I just wish they’d bring the broken classes (rogue, hunter, sham) down to mage’s level so I can queue and enjoy the game again.
I haven’t queued since getting cap for r14. It’s not worth the suffering of doing 400 or less damage to a boomie who is going to starsurge->starfire->starfall and then do 360’s spamming moonfire while he’s still on 85% hp and I’m on 3%.
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