Stop removing portals

[Hardwire-velen (Hardwire)]

As the old saying goes, “the straw that broke the camels back”. It is seldom one thing that does it but rather a slew of small cuts that by themselves aren’t a big deal. But eventually you’ve bled out too much faith and trust and then one minor thing happens and that’s it.

And when you’re pursuing a design philosophy that runs counter to what your players want, it’s all but guaranteed the straws will keep piling onto that poor camel.

[Ralanbék-frostmourne (Ralanbék)]

Can anyone explain the “old content” thing?
If you need to be in a specific place, to do a specific thing, isn’t it just… “content”?
The game was clearly never designed for things to only be done once.

This right here looks to be what the company wants…not enough “time spent” in current content, more people spending it in old content. So they use this as a mechanism to gently persuade you into more current stuff.

Are you towing the company line?

[Mahatma-blackwater-raiders (Mahatma)]

Well when wow was released, that was one of the big selling points. You would travel the world without loading screens. Why have the world at all if your just gonna spin up the content on a loading screen? Might as well just have a main menu where you choose what map you want to play.

There is a difference between going through a loading screen every time you cross the border between one zone and the next and having a handful of portal hubs where the vast majority of the portals take you to places where you would have had to go through at least one loading screen to reach anyway.

[Verdre-silvermoon (Verdre)]

And when you’re pursuing a design philosophy that runs counter to what your players want, it’s all but guaranteed the straws will keep piling onto that poor camel.

This can result in multiple camels being broken.

Again, unhappy customer tells 5-10 people about their experience.

And Blizzard with all their mistakes in the past few months doesn’t need any more bad publicity.

[Bannyy-moon-guard]

How bout just literally keep the portal rooms.
If you want the world to feel big and alive. Make it so Orgrimmar and Stormwind ‘ARENT’ the central hubs to hang out at. Give portals to each city.

Removing all these portals is just going to continue to stir hate.
NO ONE wants to go through hoops and long boring flight masters or auto-pathing to ‘get’ to where they need to go.
Old Dalaran portal gives us a good Central area
Legion Dalaran gave us Portals to All cities INCLUDING Pandaria
Pandaria Portal was in a good central area, and also gave us access to Old Dalaran.
Legion not only gave such portals but also allowed us to Portal to BC’s Shattrath, Dalarans Crater south of Lordaeron, and the Caverns of Time.

No one wants to go through old content on their 100th trip, The Portals just take that option away and its Actually Nice.
Everyone here doesn’t want to lose portals. Not everyone ‘wants’ to play a mage, or try to find a mage to give us a portal.
Legion’s Dalaran ‘was the hub’ because it had those portals.

Why not just keep the portals and instead put them into the Big @$$ room of the new portal room. High level players are the only ones that should be such and it should be a privilege to be able to port anywhere you want at will WITHOUT being a mage.

[Hardwire-velen (Hardwire)]

@Kaivax

With new expansions, we’ve made a tradition of removing some of the portals from the previous expansion’s cities. The goal with that is to encourage transportation flow through newer places where players are more likely to interact with other players. We neglected to do that initially following Legion (and we never did that following Mists of Pandaria for various reasons),

“With new expansions we’ve made a tradition of removing portals…except for fully half the expansions in the game’s life…but we’re correcting that now.”

Well, I suppose at least this confirms that it’s a design philosophy issue and we can look forward to continuing WoW’s death of a thousand cuts.

[Ralanbék-frostmourne (Ralanbék)]

Damn right, when we " cheat the game as Ion so eloquently put it re: the need for pathfinder in WoD", now if we are getting FUNthings done in too timely a fashion, will be the time they squash it.

[Fairyland-khazgoroth (Fairyland)]

Even that option (Flying) is removed - because apparently, it ‘should’ be a ‘reward’ that we work for.

In the same logic, i ‘should’ walk myself up all the way up to the top of Empire State building.

Because the ‘reward’ of the magnificent Manhattan skyline view is something i ‘should’ work for, and paying 20 bucks for a quick lift carry to the rooftop cheapens the reward and undermines the efforts of people who walked the stairs!!!

[Tarc-fenris (Tarc)]

Good. It made earning one of the appearances that much more rewarding.

Once again you demonstrate you’re a jerk because you openly admit you experience Schadenfreude.

Some things are earned by skill and not just by “I want!” There were several MT appearances that I would have liked to get, but I couldn’t quite pull em off.

Guess I shoulda kicked off a 5,000-post thread about it, since that’s what the Kool Kids do.

[Livara-stormrage (Livara)]

Yup I’m done. Screw this game. Bye everyone and good luck.

[Tarc-fenris (Tarc)]

Good. It made earning one of the appearances that much more rewarding.

It sounds less like you felt rewarded for completing the challenges and more that you just wanted something that other people can’t get.

As I stated in several MT threads back at the time, I actually did not get a single one. Being a filthy casual carries with it certain limitations, and, for reasons, I have a bit of a lack of keyboard/mouse dexterity. Made a few tries, and was really, maddeningly close on Outlaw, but it just slipped away every time.

It’s not a fault of the MT design, and I do not begrudge those who earned it, and I had no cause to kick off a 5,000 post whinge about it either.

[Rankin-shandris (Rankin)]

As I stated in several MT threads back at the time, I actually did not get a single one. Being a filthy casual carries with it certain limitations, and, for reasons, I have a bit of a lack of keyboard/mouse dexterity. Made a few tries, and was really, maddeningly close on Outlaw, but it just slipped away every time.

It’s not a fault of the MT design, and I do not begrudge those who earned it, and I had no cause to kick off a 5,000 post whinge about it either.

I’m a filthy casual who managed to get six MT appearances, but you don’t hear me trying to shut down people who want things changed.

[Nillah-uldaman (Nillah)]

Oh well. We tried.

[Tarc-fenris (Tarc)]

’m a filthy casual who managed to get six MT appearances, but you don’t hear me trying to shut down people who want things changed.

And I’ve never “shut down” anyone either, I have no desire to end conversations or prevent people from doing so. I will, however, pick apart bad arguments where people want to keep things the way they are just because they are used to them. “Shut down” has a rather specific meaning, and you’re using it incorrectly.

I see we have a blue posting about the topic in a new thread, finally giving you all your long-desired response, so this is the end of the line in this one, IMO. Toodles.

[Mahatma-blackwater-raiders (Mahatma)]

This one may stay near the top for awhile as the people passionate about it keep talking and bumping it, but eventually, it will fall farther down the page.

Yes. I’m not sure how much longer I will be able to even post here. I had originally planned on taking the next few months off and coming back for the anniversary in November, and my sub has already been canceled, but now I am not sure I’ll even come back in November. EQ2 is looking better and better to me with every change Blizzard brings to wow. I foresee a day when seamless zones are the only thing wow has that is better than what EQ2 has.

[Verdre-silvermoon (Verdre)]

Well, and this isn’t a threat. This may be the straw that broke this camel’s back.

I’ve been unhappy with BfA for quite some time.

It’s just not fun.

And their attitude, their condescending mocking attitude toward the players, is grinding on me.

It won’t be the first time I quit. I quit for a time shortly after Warlords launched. I came back.

But this … it may be time for me to move on and embrace companies that actively try and care about the folks who play their games.

I’m sure there are devs who honestly do care. Sadly, they’re the minority at Blizzard these days it seems.

I’ve still got time left on my account. But right now, I’m at a point when it expires, that’s it.

Blizzard has become a mockery of who they used to be. Much like Bioware. I used to love Bioware games, but they’re a shell of their former selves.

[Datspank-frostmourne (Datspank)]

The acknowledge a 4000+ post thread on the subject and moments later talk about how they want feedback, yikes!

[Rankin-shandris (Rankin)]

And I’ve never “shut down” anyone either, I have no desire to end conversations or prevent people from doing so. I will, however, pick apart bad arguments where people want to keep things the way they are just because they are used to them. “Shut down” has a rather specific meaning, and you’re using it incorrectly.

That’s all you’ve done in this thread. Shut down anyone who dares to question Blizzard.

[Arsènelupin-thaurissan]

Know a dude who got 33/36 appearances (his warrior wasn’t levelled) and he had fun doing it. That was a reward.

Removing portals isn’t anything like that. It’s just as tedious as getting BFA FPs was for alts.

[Bannyy-moon-guard]

I guess they now want feedback on a new thread. Well everyone here, head to the new thread and say the same thinggs