Not just Blizzard being big but the possibility of it slamming doors in their faces if they were the ones to come forward with this many companies with similar cultures wouldn’t hire them as they were “troublemaking” whistleblower types. It’s called blacklisting and many of them rightfully fear it.
It could literally kill their careers. It took the state dragging it out into the open and their company denying it when the state has evidence for them to feel safe in doing this. I mean look at this trolling from OP. Lying about who they are, deflecting. I have no doubt the former devs on twitter are getting people like this in their mentions attacking them for doing the right thing now and countering their former employer’s narrative with the truth.
It’s not that simple. The game industry is just like every other highly specialized industry. People know each other from rival companies, party with each other, and do social events with each other.
Cross one and you are going to find yourself working for a small company in the games industry… if you can even find a job at all.
Think along the lines of being blackballed by Hollywood… some actors and actresses no production company will touch now because of accusations they made against former employers.
if blizz is guilty there’s a simple solution shut blizzard down send people to jail and all the employees currently there ain’t going to suffer when blizz gives there money to them surprise it never happens again if cali is serious this will happen. its time for fair punsihment if this is all true then it goes away. there just people like us only the men don’t know what it means to be decent i honestly think if it is really true about that girl ending her life the dude needs to go to jail for murder i mean cali did make that law if you just happen to be with someone when murder happens you will get charged to. idc this stuff is flat ridiculous if true. imagine how great it would be to work in the gaming industry then
And this is why people don’t come forward about abuses. They’re retaliated against by the company that is supposed to have their backs. There’s finally a moment for them to come forward without being buried by the company and the fans call them cowards. It’s pathetic.
You don’t know the details, you aren’t privy to the internal specifics, you have zero concept of what their personal situations are—you’re just riding high on your own sense of self-righteousness handing out judgment to people you are utterly apart from. When the chips are down, practically no one would be half as virtuous as you want to pretend to be now. LARPing as an exemplar with your “how dare yous!” on the forums won’t change that.
If you had ever tried to support a family, you’d understand. It’s easy to take a stand against social injustice from the comfort of your mom’s basement.
He didn’t say the biggest in the world . He said one of the biggest and Activision-Blizzard is one of the top 10 biggest gaming companies in the world . So what he said is accurate.
It’s pretty well advised not to get involved if it’s a dangerous situation (a gang of dudes, weapons, threats of violence) as all that will happen is both of you get hurt.
I know a lot of people think “ill just tell them to stop or karate chop them and it will all work out” but it’s usually just a very good way to get the crap beaten out of you.
Same thing here. Instead of threats of violence, or weapons you have threats of retaliation. Speak up, get ignored, they find a reason later to fire you.
True but I’m talking more in line…if you see it happening…do you ignore it and forget about?
Do you walk away and not call for help? It would be a dumb move to try and help someone if there’s more than one, I agree. But what do they do after they get out of the danger zone? Do they ignore and move on? Then next day the person is found really badly hurt or worse. Police ask if anyone saw anything. Then they come forward and say…well I did see the attackers. I was afraid to step in. But didn’t call for help .
I know the above is stretching, but it somewhat applies to the subject. They saw it happening at the workplace but did nothing. But now they step forward. After how many other’s may have suffered etc.
Then its for the best that you no longer work in that type of environment. If they did speak up and it’s documented somewhere…then you’re fired soon after…that makes it suspicious.
Just bothers me that these men suddenly are standing up for these women AFTER the women come forward.
Coming from an environment that was just as toxic, I do commend them from taking a stance and speaking up. Whether they’re right or wrong, just seeing that they’re at least saying something about it is good.
Blizzard as a whole isn’t corrupt. Many devs and creators/employees there probably love what they do at the company. They need our support most of all, and the ones causing the problems need to be held accountable. Support goes a long way for someone who hasn’t had ANY.
In a situation where one worker sharing nudes of another worker is met with a verbal slap on the wrist, I’d imagine not many people would be willing to report anything unless they want to get bullied too.
And from what has been said by other women, the police aren’t much help either.
This stuff relies on others being too scared to come forth. When people group up, it hits hard. It just sucks that it took years for people to group up. It would be nice if early on they banded together but hindsight is 20-20 as they say.
What the heck? No, no it isn’t excusable. Every company I have worked for rightfully has a zero tolerance policy for that kind of behavior, because in most places groping is a crime.
Who knows why X person did Y or ignored Z. We certainly don’t.
To be honest, none of us really have enough information to have an opinion–aside from the obvious of disparaging the appalling behaviour suggested in the allegations. Like you stated in the OP, let the courts handle it.
This was one of my first thoughts after reading the Metzen statement. Both him and Morheim are working on new projects and their statements read to me like "yeah we brushed it off but plz buy our new stuff’s
Not surprised to know GD is full of spineless NPCs who would absolutely keep walking if they saw a fellow human struggling. “But it’s human nature” “They would have had consequences”. “You don’t work in a corporation”
Where I work this behavior would absolutely be called out on the spot and without ever involving HR the person would be humiliated by their coworkers into never showing up again because we’re not a bunch of creepy incels and take care of our own
hindsight is 20-20 as they say.