“I’m right, you’re wrong, and there is nothing you can say to change my mind.” That’s all I hear from this thread. So I’m probably wasting my breath here, but…
I run with a druid tank, a holy paladin, and either 2 additional mages or an additional mage and a hunter. We frost nova and shatter combo all the time. He doesn’t always hold threat, but does for a good chunk of each battle. Rarely is anyone at risk of drying. We also clear dungeons extremely fast. Maybe you should run meters so you can actually gauge how efficient your dps are. Mages that utilize all their tools put out great numbers.
Also any group that auto kicks for frost nova usage, especially in a raid, you play with some really cranky people, lol. Honestly this whole thread wreaks of “get off my lawn” from people that never evolved passed vanilla gameplay.
“Ok guys, CC everything, only attack skull, if the tank goes below 90% we’re kicking the dps”. XD