I don’t like when people in GD talk about ‘new player’ stuff because most of you have been here a while.
I started retail in shadowlands for the first time ever. Long time WoW players vastly overrate the amount of time and skill this game takes.
I’ve gotten 3000 score for season 3 on all 3 roles and got cutting edge as a DPS in SOD.
As a new player, I almost always pick healers for my groups that I know will do a lot of damage and contribute more than just heals. Resto shaman and holy priest are pretty ideal for kicks or for PI depending what’s better for your comp.
I think we shouldn’t force play styles on people though. If healers aren’t skilled enough to press all of their buttons or for role-play reasons, they refuse then that’s fine.
In the content that I do, I don’t see healers that don’t actively try to do damage. This is why since my first patch I’ve avoided LFR and low keys (under 15).
Play with likeminded people and you won’t run into noobs that don’t bind their abilities.Also before anyone says it my experience is 90%+ in pugs (for keys at least).
Think im going to keep track on who gets hit by avoidable stuff so if they ever say “why arent you dpsing” ill tell them “why aren’t you avoiding stuff”.
Look if you are paying attention to what im doing and not getting hit by anything and are doing good dmg, then I will listen to you and probably step it up. But if lets say you are paying attention to what im doing and your dps is lacking or your getting hit by stuff, I will probably tell you to worry about yourself first and foremost before even thinking about telling me what to do.
My honest advice is to find a guild who loves you. That’s what I did and if I hadn’t, I would have quit this game years ago. Guilds tend to be formed from people who all have similar gameplay goals so these kinds of issues just don’t happen. It’s possible to play competitively at the highest levels without the damage meter epeening.
I’ll be the first to admit though that finding a good guild is actually incredibly difficult. Bad guilds who just invite everyone who dares to spend more than 2s in Oribos are a dime a dozen and are bad guilds specifically because they have no standards. Finding a guild that shares your values, time zone, and that you gel with takes a long time and a lot of research. But it’s definitely worth it.
Or, if I may add, being a tank with movement abilities who tear-a$$es off while my chunky priest tries to bubble her way too you before you die in a puddle of bright green.
It goes two ways, you aren’t wrong. And back in the old days it was almost impossible to DPS because mana was so tight you were drinking every third pull. I play more than one healer class and find that some are great for DPSing and others struggle in the same content, equally geared, depending on balance. But that’s me.
It’s not fun. Healers are meant to heal. At high keys you’re more or less a glorified damage dealer because alot of things that do damage are just one shots if your group misplays
I stopped healing on my priest after doing a few 22 keys because it’s simply a trash playstyle
I can only say this; it’s all in the way you learn the character. For quite a while, healers did that and only that (excepting for some buffs, pre event). Now the character is a bit different and it takes time to adjust. I’m a poor healer. I actually try to do too much DPS and neglect my primary duty. I know it and I either need to learn or not play a healer. Either way, it’s the same for everyone. Learn it or don’t do it. Option 3 is just to do it badly and make everyone mad at you… I’m good at that too!
While I generally agree WoW is a pretty easy game to play well, I think it’s really important to acknowledge that the delta between people that are good at video games, and people that are just average at video games has grown significantly in the last 7-10 years, especially as games have become vastly more accessible and mainstream.
Some folks do view CE raiding and 3k IO as an elite level, because it really is well beyond their capabilities, while those of us that play at that level find that notion somewhat silly.
The fact is that good players and average players are basically playing entirely different games.
And let’s not even talk about the delta between good players and the best players.
It’s not just video games it’s pretty much everything in life.
We were on a rec league ice hockey team, and there was a player there that actually sniffed the NHL (made it, didn’t really play, cut, out of minors, etc.) a while back. He’s friends with some players so that’s why he’s there. He takes it easy since he knows the skill level is so different, but when he’s trying it’s like he’s playing by himself. He’s so far beyond the rest of the league it’s insane. And this is a guy who wasn’t good enough to “play” in the NHL.
I think my point is that there isn’t a lot of overlap between the people that prioritize healer DPS and the people that refuse to bind their abilities.
The only place these players interact is on the forums most likely.
Like if you’re a 10k overall in your +15 and you’re flaming the healer for bad dps then you’re also part of the problem. Just as much as the brain dead healer who is spending 50% of the dungeon run watching furry OC on the 2nd monitor.
Yep. It’s called Blitz chess. Even in non-Blitz chess you won’t find any serious level chess games that don’t involve a chess clock. Time management is actually an incredibly important skill in competitive chess. Being able to save up time such that your opponent is under pressure in a complicated end game and you’re not is a pretty big skill.
“so toxic, bad for the community and elitist”
“if I want to play chess at my own pace no one including my opponent should be able to stop me”
Am I doing it right? Lol
this is pretty much true, and I think it’s a big contributor to what causes hundreds of replies topics like this one.
seriously. it’s even bigger. I’m over 3k io currently, have more than a handful of CE’s but compared to those top ranked players I’m complete garbage at this game and I know it .
honestly I think I’m pretty much skillcapped. I can’t process information any faster in my old brain or react to things faster. throw me in a round room and I’m eternally lost. spin me around the xy’mox portals then tell me to get to a very specific spot in 1.2 seconds? man.
the things those world first type players do, heck even the rank 50 type players. I’ll never be anywhere close to that good.
Oh the gap is huge. I do alright (some ces when I have tried and was like 50 io below title range last season) but I have some dam good players on my btag. World top 20 raiders etc and they are another level. I also played with some brothers who were at an mdi lan and man they are another level again. Just unreal.
I credit the internet for the vast majority of that striation. It happens in every hobby. I’m into lockpicking and back before the days of the internet, I’d be limited to what I could accomplish in the hobby. But now I have access to the lockpicking subreddit and various YouTubers and all sorts of online resources that connect me with all sorts of experts leagues better than me. So now I’m better at lockpicking than I ever would have expected myself to be as a child.
Hobbyists are becoming more and more proficient these days due to a stronger network of informational resources. That’s true for every hobby, video games included.
By the same token, people used to be amazed at the smallest of feats. And then after You Tubers and such, people now shrug with disinterest unless you can make a mountain disappear.
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