Stop complaining about having to do damage as a healer... all you have to do is weave in a few spells

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He’s seeing which of us 2 will cave cause I said I wasn’t going to cave.

I did not see this post, but I will respond to these: Yes That is “using my whole toolkit to help the group” – I literally used your phrase against you. I helped the group by using Fear, which was in my toolkit. It did not work, but it did help the group for a moment before pulling more mobs and wiping us.

It was not on purpose, it was using the “whole toolkit” – as you guys very plainly said some posts up. If you do not want me to use the whole toolkit, then don’t say “use the whole toolkit” or that means Fearing mobs into other mobs, trying to use Entangling Roots, Mass Entangle, etc. on bosses, etc.

No, the part that is being an a-hole is actually because you’re trying to actually force players to do things they don’t want to do. A lot more healers don’t want to do damage. They’re there to heal, not dps. If they were there to dps, they would be dps instead.

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Wow ok dude. Neverminded keep going then lol … Your the one that is make thing so much more worse then it is. This is a game we get you the last 100 post. Know when to just walk away lol take a nap our go to work our hell take a walk it will be ok

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Explain to me how doing more damage to the boss leads to a wipe.

You’re not “using my argument against me” You’re doing something I can’t call out within the code of conduct.

Please look in the dictionary what “on purpose” means and then tell me what doing an action you know will wipe the group is.

I once again cannot say what you are doing within the code of conduct but I’m just letting you know you’re doing it.

You’re trying to force me out of the one shot mechanic and that’s a-hle behavior.

I don’t want to do mechanics.

There are a lot more DPS who don’t want to stop parsing than there are Healers who don’t want to do damage. The majority is against you.

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why don’t you lol

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Lol good come back … Your a star here in a video game Forums. You and him will never see eye to eye on this why keep it going ? at this point its not even fun to watch its kind of sad on both side of the argument

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it violates the holy trinity so much.
so much.
so bad for the trinity.

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Cool, don’t care. If there are more, then they will all end on as floor buddies, not our problem.

Then don’t do them, it’s that simple. Just don’t come crying if you die. I don’t flame people for not doing mechanics, I only flame them for not doing mechanics and expecting me to heal through a 1 shot, nothing more. Otherwise, again, don’t care how many mechanics you actually stand in at that rate.

I’ve seen groups who never once interrupted abilities in the entire dungeon and been in fights in raids where 0 interrupts went off. It’s fine and doable.

No, I’m telling you to not complain to me about it should you stay in it and die. I don’t actually care whether you stand in it or not, I care more that if you do stand in it and die, you don’t complain to me about it. The annoyance factor is what I care about, not the result, nor anything else.

Sure, you forced the boss into a phase they shouldn’t have been in yet or your group wasn’t ready for yet, and then boom, wipe.

No, I’m using your literal words of “use your whole toolkit” against you as a literal phrase as what you would see from a new player coming into the game and being told of things like “do damage” as a healer.

Cause I’ve seen some newer Resto Druids trying to learn how to kitty weave and because of GCDs, the tank dies then the group dies by the time the tank gets back up from Brezzed.

Again, newer players would not know this, nor would people newer to the healing role. This is also why there’s not a lot of healers around.

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sorry, How does it it violate the trinity?

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The healer’s job is not to deal damage, it’s to heal. The damage dealer’s job is not to heal, but to do damage. The tank’s job is to keep the threat on them and protect the group from incoming damage. This is the holy trinity, yet you got Tanks healing, DPS healing, Healers DPSing, which violates the trinity.

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If I thought we could see eye to eye, I’d be putting in more effort.

Reported for gameplay sabotage /s

“I only want to heal”

“but you let me die”

“Don’t come crying to me for not doing my job”

Reported for flaming. /s

Literally doing content this post isn’t talking about

Yes, you’re acting exactly what I said you were. If you were “using my argument against me” you’d include the spirit of the argument, you’re deliberately being more than 90% degrees.

Why do we care about the trinity again?

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Ok so that’s just means your trolling at this point right?

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Not putting 150% into the discussion and trolling are very different things.

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Not really . the point of talking things out is to try to see each others point I don’t see that here anywhere i just see your wrong and I’m right on both side of this

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How often do you think that occurs in GD, let alone on this topic specifically?

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As a druid, I really have no excuse. It doesn’t take much to throw a few dots on the boss :rofl:

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I see it on here a lot But you both have to be open to it and That’s so not happing here
i get it healers can dps its not a game killer but also you cant force a healer to do it … we can all agree on that right?

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It’s fine, I’m old and getting tired at this point. Can’t fully pull all nighters so soon enough I will be heading to bed.

Some people don’t care about it, some do. A lot of people playing healers care more about it than the other 2 roles, most of the time or that I’ve seen it’s more healers sticking to it than the other 2 roles.

I did include the spirit of the argument, we’ve literally been going at this for hours, back and forth my homie. I took the phrase, made it literal, and used it against you. Nothing more nothing less.

They never said what keys are high. They said heroic and mythic raids, sure, but that doesn’t matter. Again, what this boils down to is: player expectancy. This is a community problem that the player base has.

It’s not a “big” problem, as healers aren’t being flamed left and right. It happens sometimes, not all that often, in lower keys, normal, heroic, mythic raids, in all dungeon content, in PvP.

It happens everywhere you have any kind of group content; better players expect everyone to give 145% effort, and that’s not the case with everyone. Those they find not giving it 145% effort, they complain about and say “why aren’t you doing -throw in some names here-” maybe throw in some insults, maybe not. Some are vulgar, some aren’t.

Either way it’s a community based issue that makes a lot of newer players, once they go through that, they don’t care to play healer anymore. We have shortages of healers, then, which makes those healers get the “step up your game more” kind of pish posh thrown at them by other players, too.

Or the infamous comparing of “i was in a group with this resto shaman who did 13k dps, why aren’t you doing it?” kinda thing.

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Do you know what that is called?

I’ll tell you what it’s not, “including the spirit of the argument”.

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You can’t force me to move out of the fire

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As a person who loves final fantasy 14. This isn’t that game and healers should not dps. That’s not their duty, they should heal, point, blank, period. That’s why we have 3 dps.