Stop Asking for Changes

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Not exactly, then they wanted changes to a live and developing game. Now people want to change something that already existed in a completed form.

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And you think that asking for changes in the forums is what caused changes and directed game development? Do you really think that is the purpose of the forums?

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But Blizzard has said Loot Trading will be in the game. So what your’e asking for is a change. This change doesn’t go with your statement

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Completed form. I take it you don’t want them to make any changes, even ones from previous patches that existed during Vanilla?

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It’s supposed to be a historical recreation of a game. This really is quite a simple concept. Make the game as close to as it was back then.

How people decide to play it nowdays is up to the people but the game should be as close to the original as possible that is after all the entire point of it.

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I don’t believe this is confirmed. Regardless I would not be asking for a change, id be saying to revert a change.

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I agree 100%, however for historical reasons it’s in the spirit of Vanilla to ask for changes. If asking for changes annoys people just ignore them.

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Exactly

Its called ‘courage of ones conviction’. You know who tries to silence opposition…countries like China, North Korea, and Venezuela. Do you really want to have something in common with them?

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Listen, if you take a historically accurate patch (1.12) and remove things or add things from other historically accurate patches (say, 1.5). You have now created something that is not historically accurate.

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Classic wow should just be Classic wow - nothing more nothing less

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I think people are just afraid that Actiblizz will actually listen to those wanting change. It’s understandable people care a great deal about this game after all.

Personally I hope people would just try it out first and then start asking for changes if they feel like it needs some. Don’t you think this would be more in the spirit of Vanilla anyway? :smiley:

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Seems I struck a nerve.

You kind of seemed to miss the point of why I said what I said though.

Say they decide they’re going to do some class balancing. What Brennemin(I think that’s what his name is) was saying, that they’d go “Okay class balancing. Well the only way to really do this is to remove the vanilla talent trees, and well BFA already has a good set of “trees” to use. Let’s toss out this old abilities no longer in game and port over some BFA abilities.”

That’s literally what he was saying. If they decided to make non-essential changes (i.e. not major bug/exploits), they would just go take what they needed from BFA and save themselves a metric ton of work. Or hell, it’s 7.3.5. They could just strip all the 2.0+ content out of 7.3.5 fix some graphical errors and call it a day. At that point you’d essentially be playing Legion with only access to Vanilla zones and raids. If they did that, they’d be done already. And no one would be playing it.

But hey, you keep screeching at the top of your lungs about some changes are good things.

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40:18 “We’re keeping Loot Trading in”

It’s been confirmed for quite some time.

I think many of the people asking for changes have tried it out before though. Again Vanilla forums were flooded with people asking for changes. We know what Vanilla was already like. Also I’ve stated already in this thread that people asking for changes now are no where near the amount of people who are going to ask for changes once Classic is live.

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This is where I think they overestimate the power of the forums in terms of affecting the decisions Blizzard makes when it comes to game design decisions. I really don’t think Blizzard reads these forums and uses them to get a feel for what people want and don’t want, or treats the discussions in here as representative in any way of their target audience.

At least I hope they don’t use these forums in that way… :stuck_out_tongue:

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Silence is complicity. If people ask for changes and no one stands against them, then basically no one is against them.

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Yeah it would not be technically accurate for patch 1.12 that’s for sure.
But when creating as close as possible representation of a vanilla experience it should follow the patch release schedule as close as it can.
I believe they only have complete data for patch 1.12 though and thus they have to go by best estimate on how to present us this Classic experience so that it resembles Vanilla as close as they feel is realistically possible to produce.

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Not really because Blizzard has already has a hard stance on no changes. If anything by commenting on their threads you keep their threads noticeable.

Also I would say a lot of the people asking for changes now are online trolls who are just trying to get a rise out of people.

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Can we have a change of socks? Or should we throw the old ones away?

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And when their thread falls … what it’s called now? No 1st page … falls into the abyss, they make a new thread. And they just keep going and going and going. And no one stands against it and Blizzard eventually thinks its what people want.

There is no harm and no rule against telling people the change they want isn’t a good thing. People here keep saying it’s part of vanilla to ask for changes. Well it was also part of Vanilla to tell people how wrong or bad those ideas were.

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People worry to much about this. Even Ion showed barely suppressed contempt during the Blizzcon presentation on Classic when it came to ‘changes’. Just listen to the tone of voice when he discussed Dungeon finding, cross-realm grouping, flying, achievements, and faction wide auction houses. Changes to the talent tree is also a non-starter. The debuff limit maybe the best example of how things are developing. A system put in place solely because of technological limits is being kept in place so that changes in balance don’t have to be made.

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