It has a lot to do with grouping and not breaking cross-server pvp communities.
In the end it’s world pvp. Maybe removing all bonuses would be better so no one complains.
Because a horde soul that disappears in the maw is a good soul.
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I played when warmode wasn’t optional. I saw Horde stay for an even fight once. Every other time they ran away from anything resembling an even fight (and the Alliance did the same thing)
Suggesting you play for the honorable side is making you look goofy.
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I am disappointed, I looked found no donut thread…
Sir, you owe me one honey cruller!
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Maybe, but Blizzard isn’t going to let Warmode be a failure so they have to provide something to incentivize players to participate. It’s why the Alliance bribe is the way it is.
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I wasn’t trying to derail anything. I was just curious what it meant.
A meaningless gesture in other words
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You can keep the incentives to anima, gold, and honor. Stygia though is tied to a power increase which shouldnt be impacted by war mode bonuses.
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Delicious Horde tears! Mmmm yes, more! More!
World pvp = world player vs player, if you are being killed in the open world by other players then it is in fact world pvp. It doesn’t matter if it’s you foolishly charging into a 40 man raid by yourself or with two other buddies. 40 players v 1 player is still pvp.
If you don’t want to be killed in pvp, then turn warmode off. If you dont want to turn warmode off, then you agree to live with the risks of being killed by large groups of players.
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Agreed. My WoW time before WM was on pvp servers and I didn’t feel the imbalance that WM has made. At the very least the buff shouldn’t be pve related. It should be more like the Winter Grasp buff of providing Health, Attack, resource bonus to make up for not having as many people.
Yes, I also joined in a roaming group of Alliance who killed Horde. I can almost guarantee on almost everything you feel that is a Horde only thing isn’t.
Im sure people would love to turn Warmode off if it didnt handicap them in power progression.
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you voluntarily turned on warmode so suck it up buttercup
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How about a better warmode bonus now that horde are insanely outnumbered? Ally def don’t need it now.
Oh I am not claiming it is. I laughed at my brethren too when the complained about PvP happening in WM.
This whole thread is funny to me, imagine being salty because PvP happened when you were flagged for it.
Ya i pvped a lot there. When i was like “man now i have few time to finish this” i DISABLED WARMODE and concluded the quests.
Incredible system i must say.
Bro almost no alliance gave two cents for this, Blizzard literally changed the system because horde complained they couldnt find any alliance lmao.
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Man… imagine these new breed of horde if they magically got sent back to when we locks were dropping Doomguards and Infernals on our own towns (GS and XRoads) for simple S&Gs.
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Oh, yeah lets be clear I’m not defending OP. I turned it off and noped out because I just didn’t want to deal with it the first day. I’ve also gone back to mess around with the big battle.
Blame the foxes, you got our best players! 
Really what do you want Blizzard to do? Call the authorities? it’s PVP.
Make more than one entrance to the Maw, or a device that allows direct teleportation to Ve’nari.
we have the bonuses because people complained
I think in the end, things like making the bonuses more dynamic, preventing honor gain while in a raid, or better game design (dev’s anticipating trouble points) would go a long ways towards resolving these tensions.
but, maybe the devs don’t mind the tensions. how many times have they told us world pvp isn’t fair?
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