Oh, it’s not a mistake, it’s more of a hobby.
This sounds like jibberish, it’s fluff without the facts.
As of now Private servers are more authentic than what Blizzard has created for one reason. No layering.
The game isn’t even out yet so you’re just assuming what I will and will not do.
Never said Blizzard owes me anything, I said that we owe it to ourselves to hold them accountable when they start going back on their word which they already have.
I know what it means, you don’t apparently since you aren’t using the word correctly.
EDIT: I haven’t waved my finger around claiming everyone is wrong, that’s just you making stuff up now and becoming desperate to win this arguement.
I know what it means, you don’t apparently since you aren’t using it correctly.
lol what?
Def’n of Hypocrite: a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings.
You can sit there and say that you don’t thing Blizzard owes you anything. Then why make over half a dozen other posts crying about it? Just walk away. Just because the game hasn’t released, doesn’t mean you’re not a hypocrite. I can gaurantee you’ll be there with your grubby paws on Classic on launch night. Because again, if not, why are you here? Is your life so crummy that you feel the need to pay a sub to complain on a forum for a game you won’t even play?
Feels like you’re in a no win scenario. Either you’re a super sad person that is so desperately lonely that you’re here to scream with no intention of playing, just in hopes that someone talks to or around you. Or you’re exactly as I’m calling it - (correctly) a hypocrite.
Quick edit: He’s already furiously typing about how he’s not, and I’m a poopy head. But if anyone here genuinely believes this dude isn’t a hypocrite, I’ll drop it and apologize.
You can’t even reason or have a constructive arguement against me without adding in some form of insult and yet I’m the sad one?
kek!
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I’ve given you plenty of reason and constructive arguments. Layering won’t destroy anything, just because you can’t see it, doesn’t mean it’s not there. You’re basing all your whining posts off the assumption that Blizzard hasn’t or won’t do as they promised. The fact you actually think arguing that layering makes it a non-vanilla like experience shows how little you have to grasp.
Along with your argument of the Battlenet friend list. How, at all, does that adversely affect anyone?
You have no leg to stand on, and your last post here is repeated if you scroll back through. Someone backs you into a corner, you have no rebuttal, because you have no real thoughts except what you assume and what the our loud whiners are crying about, and you make a short off handed attempt at deflection.
You are sad my dude. In all my 15 years playing this game, I think I’ve only ever met a few people nearly as sad as you. But certainly none as delusional.
All I did was state reasons why I don’t like layering along with examples and why I don’t think it works but you decided to come at me guns blazing like I crapped in your scrambled eggs all because I don’t like layering.
I never said layering destroys anything but that’s just you making stuff up again.
I was really hyped for Classic, a version of the game without the changes modern WoW has made. Then the announcement of layering happened, then I experienced it and it reminded me of sharding. I hate sharding, it is disruptive and it can be abused for certain advantages. It is a modern WoW solution that I don’t think belongs in Classic.
Not seeing this rebuttal your making up, you got me to look though.
Only person assuming things here is you.
Ok
Making more stuff up about me I see and lies.
Wonder what your next lie and made up story about me will be.
Tune in folks for the next episode of Xury vs Tristfel 
Big ole’ negative there bro.
Nobody wants to watch you make excuses anymore.
What excuses are you going to make up that you think I made?
You have no arguements, just made up stories.
It’s why you don’t highlight anything I write that contradicts what I say to validate your counter point.
Pathetic.
Rawr. You’re funny when you’re angry.
Troll exposed, was fun.
Take care 
Who was it that said something like math breaks easily with made up numbers?
Hmm, I wonder. Couldn’t have been you, right?
Anyway, expecting an 80% drop in wow classic population is a joke. And a terrible, terrible foundation for decision making. Thus layering, which is a bad solution to the problem of potential dead severs.
Pointing out the reality of layering is not fear mongering. It’s reality. Players will avoid pvp, and exploit it in innumerable other very significant ways.
And my initial question has yet to be addressed by your nonsense other than “free server transfers.” Which might as well be sever merges that would have happened, worst case, without layering…
Yet, you fan boys will defend it to your dying breath.
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Right, because that Stormwind or Ironforge raid happens so often that the people who layer change to continue their AH farming uninterrupted will switch into another layer with an Ironforge raid.
And I’m sure that forsaken warlock in the duskwook cemetery is there on all 6 other layers.
Get a grip dude.
Not entirely, this is during Wrath of the Lich King, which means it’s talking about the “Vanilla” content:
So 70% of players didn’t make it past level 10, nine years ago.
We also know Classic is going to have a lot of “tourists” who aren’t logging into the game to really play it, they’re logging in the see “what all the hype was about” for Classic. So I think a repeat of those numbers is very likely to be valid.
Then dont yoin a full server to begin with… you ALL knew layering was going to be removed, the wait times to login is on you guys
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The vanilla content was obsolete for years at that point, and the game was entirely different from classic.
Apples to oranges, not a good comparison.
Remember, though, that Ion did not leave any qualifiers with his promise. There was no “there might be some special cases in which layering will be extended beyond a few weeks.”
Either Blizzard keeps the promise made by Ion or they don’t. There is no middle ground, IMO.
The end of September will be about 5 weeks after launch. IMO, that is as far as “a few weeks” should extend.
I think they are going to time it with the Thanksgiving/Christmas holiday, that’s why I say late Nov. early Dec. No one knows for sure though.
Fan boy… is that the go to for anyone that disagrees with a premise. It’s that or call everyone a troll. Makes it easy to spot people with no substance to their claims
The 80% is irrelevant. It could be 10%. It could be that Classic has a positive growth instead.
Growth has simple solutions. Add more servers. A population loss has no simple solution. Layering is Blizzard’s choice on how they can mitigate the loss and it can accommodate a large drop. Even 80%.
The fear mongering part is pointing blame to layering for random elements. Such as PvP. If people avoiding PvP it’s not because of layering. That’s a PvP design issue. People will avoid PvP with or without layering.
Add in the fact that through put the course of the beta. Blizzard put in changes to alleviate the evils you are dumping on layering.
Yep, fear mongering fits.
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Ok, now whose losing their grip. Are you telling me that a raid couldn’t possibly span more than one layer?
If you are going to dream up ways layering is bad. Don’t forget to dream up for both sides.
There’s a video where Ion promised layering would be removed after a few weeks. He literally used the word “promise.” So yes, “a few weeks” is on the table, as that’s what we were originally told about layering’s duration.
However, afterwards, there was a blue post saying layering would be removed by Phase 2 at the latest.
The truth is, they can do whatever they want. Ion can easily renege on his promise for whatever reason he wants. That’s why I think it’s important we keep the pressure on, especially now, so they can ensure we have enough servers to allow them to remove layering ASAP, while also not having so many servers that we end up with dead realms after a year.
I personally would like to see them stick with their lean approach (i.e. minimal amount of servers) and focus on performance improvements (whatever that entails) to ensure heavy loads can be supported.