It is easy to be cynical about it. I can link you the thread where the CM faced down the overwhelming complaints about the ruination of AV and responded to the effect of “we think AV is in a good place… come look at wintergrasp!”.
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Here it is. “Well tuned” was the wording.
Scroll down halfway:
https://web.archive.org/web/20080808013348/http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8557297376&sid=1
So yeah, you will please excuse me if I seem “cynical”.
Classic is with 1.12 data but some are hoping that AV is set back to 1.5
Don’t be absurd. Of course human nature is to take the path of least resistance. Opening up the path wide and polished to enable the least resistance is without question blizzard’s fault.
I disagree, people like BG’s they can win. If you want meaningless killing of the other faction wpvp is always there.
Anybody who wants the BG to end is a quitter.
Translation: Those only playing the BG for the shiny rewards want fast BGs. Those of us who want an actual enjoyable BG experience want early AV.
And you can experience pvp with no real goal or rewards in the form of wpvp.
Original AV is about a battle. You’re part of something. It’s an ongoing conflict that people join and depart from. That is the essence of the Vanilla experience. Just that: the EXPERIENCE. It’s not about efficiently grinding honor. That is a mentality that clashes with the very nature of Vanilla. I would hope the devs understand that, and in that understanding they offer something that players can’t get in the other iteration of the game. And that means original AV. It is so radically, fundamentally different from any other bg or later forms of AV that it would be a travesty if players don’t have the ability to experience it.
We can get both with early AV. You want the version of AV that fostered the AVOIDANCE of PVP in AV. I have a vision of my head of you bravely riding along the west side of the map as the horde rushes up the east side.
No you can’t. Matches that last for days mean no individual can actually contribute to them.
There is that proof that you never played the early versions.
It literally takes one person capturing that GY to end the rush. Taking that GY away means alliance has to spawn on defense and fight their way through the horde group to make it to Drek.
I stopped doing AV, because people would get upset when you did that. If the majority wants that, let them have it. If the majority wants long drawn out fights, then it’s still possible. You won’t get multi-day AV matches, but you can still have a pretty long match.
If you like BGs that end in less than 2 days, then WSG and AB are always there.
They’ll be better for farming the PvP rewards anyway.
Please show it?
Your posts already have.
Right they show I did play all version of AV in vanilla and formed an opinion based that.
That doesn’t matter to me. I want early-form AV. The zerg-fest has been a hollow shell for over a decade.
The zerg fest started when they added reinforcement counts, that did not happen in vanilla.
You didn’t play much in 1.12, did you?
Zerging started when the npcs were nerfed into oblivion and that was done in Vanilla. In 1.12 it’ll be a rush, just like modern AV.