Implying that balance druids don’t cast wrath or starfire just shows you don’t even know how the spec plays.
But also, reverting the SS change would put it back to being a useless spell. Even with exclipse the damage on SS would be so bad it would not be worth using the rune again.
This is obvious if you played with SS before the buff, so it just tells me you don’t know how balance works in SoD.
He doesn’t care if you feel useless, he just wants you to go away
Nerf Starsurge damage.
Boost Wrath / Starfire damage to compensate.
Done.
Surge cast time is 4 seconds. Add a rune that reduces the cast time of surge by 1 second that stacks to 4. You now have a nuke that requires ramping and pve isnt affected but pvp is balanced
Dualspec would solve a lot of issues. A boomy can be full raid-dps spec and still be a pvp king because all you have to do is cast Starsurge, Wrath, Travel Form, and maaaybe Entangling Roots. If other classes had access to their pvp talents all the time, they might have a chance.
They need base damage through wrath/moonfire/starfall. Starsurge needs a niche that isn’t just ICBM.
If starsurge is oppressive in PvP, give it a PvP mod. Data I’m seeing indicates that moonkin is middle of the pack in the new raid.
Even if this is correct, druids Will keep hitting 1k+ when they crit which is the problem, damage without crit is like 600 for a instant cast without mana cost, thats exactly the dmg i do in 2 melee swings with a 3,6 speed wep, Right now and after this phase there are 0 reasons for being melee if You plan to pvp, damage is unhealable.
As a 2h melee i should be hitting 2k crits for compensate.
And not only starsurge is a problem, sunfire needs a cd and make it to apply aoe debuff or 2) cut the initial hit damage, or endless instant cast spam problem Would persist vs meelee players.
This. I don’t PvP that much so I could care less what they do to damage in PvP. Based on what I see in the content I do take part in… all melee classes would need a massive damage nerf.
Just give druid longer cast times lol. Literally the only way to fix it without destroying pve. A class with almost all instant cast or short cast spells will always be way too op in PVP if its sorta decent at pve in classic. Reason why it works in retail is because everyone has insane mobility that does not exist in classic.
Unless they actually want to start adding pvp modifiers but it seems they want to stay away from that for the classic feel. But they should just add pvp modifiers and gut druid.
Also a side note. Melee hunters too. How do they consistently let a class out perform the second best class by 15-20% and 50% higher than the median.
Horrendous idea.
Why do you knuckleheads make these posts when it is obvious people are complaining about it in PvP and first response you start mentioning DPS in raids… like no one cares about that.
Apparently they do.
Yes the class is already mid pack but let’s put it lower because of pvp… They can simply do a damage reduction in pvp. People were complaining about Starsurge in P1 for the duration after it was buffed. The only change made was to decrease it’s range to 30 yards / 36 with talents. As opposed to all the other nerfs to various classes and Hunters should get a listing of their own in that group. You’d think there is almost a hint in there.
bring in a pvp stat like resilience or pvp power. dont care about the healer qq drawback. CC them and win. dont care about “what about my rng gamble 1 shot crit spec” learn your class instead of banking off some gimmick build.
If you are complaining about DPS in gnomer then it’s time to play another game
Sorry you can’t read. But that seems standard for the common boomie enjoyer.
So boomies can just one shot people randomly walking around still. Naw past. Shouldn’t have to wear pvp at all times to not be one shotted.
I dont see why anyone would walk around on a pvp server in the contested zones, not wearing pvp gear…but anyway. People are asking for solutions that wont hurt PvE. Having a PvP stat is one of them.
Simple because we don’t have too.
if you have the tools available to avoid something but you still choose to not use said tool. then at that point its all on you homie.