Standardize charms or standardize turnover

This isn’t true at all. There’s still things to purchase with the Shiny Charms, there are multiple achievements to be had, and they give decent pet experience (at least the WoD ones).

This also isn’t true. The Legion pet WQs give a commiserate number of Shiny Charms as the BfA/SL/DF WQs give Polished Charms.

Again, you’re just upset that you missed out on the announcement of the switch to Polished Charms because YOU chose not to play at the time. Then you compounded the issue when YOU chose to assume that they were going to switch charms again instead of taking a few minutes to verify the change. As I said before, none of that is Blizzard’s fault.

Sure, the first round… my fault. Hence no post at BFA launch.

Has there been a blue post confirming polished weren’t going to be changed for DF?

There is zero reason one person can’t spend 2-minutes to communicate the official decision here. If it’s such a problem to get a blue logged in to the forums, then make the decision permanent. It’s simple.

Show me such a post and I’ll concede. Otherwise, you should really stop letting devs of games you enjoy screw you over due to sheer laziness.

I am 100% certain if they suddenly didn’t include a mount reward for the “ahead of the curve” in the final raid of DF, and didn’t make any such indication of it, there would be an outrageous amount of outcry

Not too different from what this is.

There were 0 - ZERO - posts indicating that they were going to change. One more time: It is YOUR fault you assumed that there was going to be a change. You got screwed over because, in YOUR laziness, you chose not to make sure that there was going to be a pet charm change.

You can tell what sort of additional reward - like a mount - is attached to an achievement when you look it up in the Journal. So, while there would likely be an outcry about not getting a mount with the final AotC, 99% of it would be from people who looked at the achievement (or read about it on WoWhead or the forums) and only 1% would be people like you who went out and got the achievement only to then realize there was no mount.

And how would I have gone out to confirm there would not be a change?

I checked maybe once a month for a post confirming whether or not they would change and there was nothing but speculation from the community…

I am literally asking for the option to go to wowhead or a similar place ( these forums for example are the perfect place for it) to check if it was being changed or not.

Now you’re arguing for the same thing I want lmfao

Speculation, not confirmation of a change. You just assumed.

You mean posts like these from when they switched from Shiny to Polished?

Battle Pet Currency Changes in Battle for Azeroth - Polished Pet Charm - Wowhead News

Or

Pet Battle Changes in the BFA Pre-Expansion Patch - Buy Stones Now - Wowhead News

There was a Blue post at the time, too. I can’t pull it up anymore - the format of the forums has changed - but the first link has a copy of it.

Funny how there were NO posts or articles about a pet charm change prior to Dragonfight. But of course, it’s Blizzard’s fault that you assumed there would be a switch.

There are a lot of things over which to get annoyed with Blizzard. Screwing yourself over because you made an assumption based on something that happened over 4 years ago isn’t one of them.

Lengthy forum thread that ran from mid July through end of October had some pretty strong clues …

(Current Pet charms - #7 by Haggles-moon-guard)

We had gotten cautious about surprise changes so the folks testing the Beta were looking into the pet and pet buff vendors, who were still using the Polished.

This is precisely the problem…. It wouldn’t have been difficult to come here and say “hey, this time it won’t change”. There were quite a lot of Reddit posts asking and 50/50 split from the community who was speculating whether it would change or not.

Why would they come and announce that they weren’t changing anything? That’s just silly.

Was there speculation that there would possibly be a change? Sure. Was there any evidence - other than a change happening 4 years ago - that one was going to happen? No. There were no Blue posts about a change. There was nothing in the patch notes. The currency in the beta continued to be Polished Pet Charms. There was no indication whatsoever that they were going to introduce a new Pet Charm.

Face it. You screwed up. Own it. Stop blaming Blizzard for what you did.

It’s after the fact, but in the future if you’re looking for somewhere to give you a possible heads up on changes like pet charms, the WarcraftPets Discord server had a handful of Alpha/Beta testers that regularly checked whether or not we’d be using PPC or a new currency in DF. They also provided updates on how many PPC we’d need to buy the new charm-pets. Can always drop by if you have questions or need help catching up on pet news.

Let’s say it’s 100% my fault then.

Blizzard can still do better with minimal effort moving forward. You’re missing the point

I think changing them every 2 expacs would be fine. They should have switched them this expansion, but pet battles were very clearly an afterthought this time around.

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Because it is.

The minimal effort is to make an announcement when there is going to be a change. If there’s no change, there’s no need to make an announcement. Do you go to the grocery store and expect them to announce over the loudspeaker, “Attention, shoppers: the orange juice is still not on sale?”

I understand your point. You want Blizzard to hold your hand and tell you when they’re NOT going to change something. MY point is that’s dumb.

Hold it. Yes, it was announced that Pet Charms (now Shiny Pet Charms) would become obsolete. But the exact day this was going to be done was never announced. I remember this, because I, through sheer dumb luck sunk all my Shinies into levelling stones just before the change.

A lot of people were taken by surprise by the change, however. And were stuck with a huge amount of Shinies that were all but worthless.

Even an exchange rate for Shinies to Polished would be useful. Or make the Shinies good for something. They’re still rewarded for doing the Draenor Circuit. There needs to be something more they can buy, other than pets that everyone has already.

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Except it was. Both of those articles I posted were from before the BfA prepatch, and both remind people to spend their Pet Charms before they became Shiny and they couldn’t get the upgrade stones.

Right. People who didn’t pay attention. That’s not Blizzard’s fault. It wasn’t a stealth change. It was publicized.

People new to the game or new to pet battling don’t have them. I’m sure there’s some people who buy the pets and sell them on the AH. The charms aren’t worthless.

Back when this happen I went out of my way to info as many as I can of the change…here on these forums…MMO Champ…many of groups on Facebook…in game on all the realms I visit in hunt for low price battle pets…many of us did almost weekly here about the up coming changes.

I even asked months ahead here were we learned of Dragon flight if anyone knew we would change or not …I had my feelers out there checking.

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Nope. I was here participating on these forums, as Loncis, at the time. I was actually here when people complained about being caught off guard, not being told when the change was happening, and people being caught with a bunch of Shinies that were no longer useful.

It wasn’t about it being unpublicised. It was that it happened too quickly. I took less than a month off, and inside that month it was announced and implemented. Bad luck for me no doubt, but it didn’t need to happen on that accelerated a timeframe.

Everything always seems rushed. I know the money guys never give the development guys as much time as they would like to get things ready, but I think they could do better communicating things that directly require player action, earlier.

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I was here, too. I remember the multiple threads about the upcoming changes. I remember the stickied Blue post about the change nearly 2 months before the pre-patch. I remember the posts on WoWhead (I linked to two of them) about the change. The point being that there was plenty of notice available about the then upcoming change. If folks were choosing to ignore information regarding major changes (via an expansion) to the game they were playing, that was their fault.

The point is that there was plenty of notice available about the change back then. The OP of the thread, however, chose to assume that a similar change was happening again this time, despite there being absolutely no indication in the beta, posts from Blizzard, or information on WoWhead indicating the change was happening. They’re mad that Blizzard didn’t bother to confirm a negative.

Were you using a different name? I do not remember you.

I do remember threads about the upcoming changes, but no one had pinned down a specific date as to when this change was happening, and many were left in the lurch.

Again, I just decided to sink my Pet Charms, now Shiny Pet Charms, into blue stones and levelling stones at the right time, purely by coincidence. I’m guessing they decided to implement a new currency because the Zookeeper enchant was a mistake and we were making out like bandits.

And the ironic part is that we still are, even without Zookeeper. Even in the 15 days that I have since returned, without relying on any other resources other than the quests in BoA and Draenor, I’ve amassed over 1000 charms and various leveling stones and blue stones.

I’m experimenting to see how many I can collect over a month. I haven’t spent a thing except bandages.

That’s fine. I remember you.

System changes with an xpac always come with the pre-patch. I’ve also posted links to two articles about the change, one which implied it and one which specifically says it came with the pre-patch. I also remember discussions about it coming with the pre-patch - typically, “When do I have to spend my Pet Charms by?” posts.