Proof please, its already been explained why what your saying is crayon fodder.
In my experience, this is not the case. The low geared people wont bother reserving the easy pieces of loot, because they’re just that, easy. Either they will get it uncontested, or have to roll off against someone for ms>os, while still getting the opportunity to roll on the epic stuff if it DID drop
Okay - let’s assume I am wrong, and I’ll show you why even then logically I become right again in 3 steps:
- Most of the purchased gold is only in GDKPs.
- GDKP players then go and use that gold to buy stuff on the AH.
- Again, the AH sales % becomes hugely impacted by illicit gold.
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But the reality is that many players purchase gold do not go to GDKPs, and many GDKP players do not purchase gold. Many carries go there INSTEAD of purchasing gold.
The illicit gold makes it way across the entire economy. It creates inflation in both GDKPs and outside of them. Without illicit gold, the average price of items in GDKPs would be far lower.
Riiighhht because nobody’s ever ninjaed a gdkp pot before
At which point you’re only out of whatever your split would have been.
And whatever items the host outbid people on and promptly didnt pay out for
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But those people still got their items.
Which is much better than when someone ninjas in a MS > OS run.
Clearly you have never been involved in GDKP, but its ok let me inform you.
This is a complete fallacy, Rules are preset, everyone involved would disagree and demand their gold back.
Very wrong, Any gold spent is divvied up and given back in the payout.
This is completely ignorant. All gold spent in a GDKP goes towards the pot, which is divvied out after the auctions are complete.
Once again, ignorance, a participant doesn’t get paid out until the auction process is complete, so the need to complete and stay to the end is very relevant until the payout is done.
Re-read what i just said? The host intentionally outbid people on items, only to not pay out and take said items, so its WORSE than an ms>os ninja, because they took the item AND the gold they owed you for it
because they enjoy the content, to help their guildmates and friends… there’s plenty of reasons.
Seriously, not sure why people even order strawberry ice cream, when chocolate ice cream is way superior to any other flavor, and you don’t actually have to have any other flavors.
And in a GDKP system the worst players buy gold and use that illicit gold for items. Seems like the players you’re describing are uhhhh maybe smarter
That’s why I said little incentive.
Those things are fine for a few weeks to a couple months - but eventually nearly every bis toon will stop raiding if there is nothing they can actually gain for that toon.
Raiding gets pretty expensive - spending $1000-3000gold to ‘help’ friends clear naxx week after week and spending a few days farming that gold isn’t really what most people will do.
Thats… not a bad thing. You dont need to be incentivised to perpetually be raiding for some benefit. Raiding is quite possibly the least interesting part of the game, if i could be done with it in 2 weeks, and then never step foot inside a raid again, i would be happy
It is a bad thing for the lower parsing players that eventually want to experience and clear that endgame content.
If the geared players are constantly being replaced with alts / new higher performing players - they never have a chance to get a raid slot.
Said nobody in any run ever.
I have literally pugged through bfd at 4am with sub 50dps players (not the whole group, but a good chunk) on a fresh 25 who dinged 1 hour before the raid.
Raid spots are not competitive.
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i never flasked for naxx outside close progression.
you should be coming out of naxx with more gold than you entered with if you die less, don’t flask or pot and loot trash.
raidlogging can be gold-positive. I’ve done it.
only in retail it’s not.
BiS > ms > os should be the real loot order
People taking things because they are a current upgrade but which will be replaced immediately shouldn’t have the same weighting as someone who will keep that item for the entire phase.
“best” is not universally defined.