Square Enix fired a male victim of sexual harrassment

That is not what the op is talking about.

It’s basically your leaving a bad to support another bad kinda deal.

Ew, Tifa. That said I do have a Yuffie wall hanging from Displate. Also have a few of just foxes.

I am not victim blaming but in my opinion, you shouldn’t sleep with a co-worker…that is a bad, bad move…

And making that person sleep on the couch that you slept with too, that’s just wrong.

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While it is more than likely that SE has the same problems as Blizz since this is an industry wide problem there are things people aren’t taking into account. One, the sheer amount of evidence and people coming forward about what is going on at Blizz vs a single unverified and untrustworthy source.

The other thing is that most of those leaving for FF14 are likely doing so for more reasons than just the lawsuit. It is a straw that broke the camel’s back scenario. I would wager that most of those leaving in light of this were already unhappy with the state of the game. It is one thing to support a company you love even if the game is in a rough spot, it is another to support a company that is looking like a massive dumpster fire with a game in a rough spot.

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Wrong, the woke are ultra minority and no one should worry about them. The company should have canned her.

Olympics went woke and they’re tanking, CNN and msnbc are also tanking.

Only thing that is public is testimonies, which without evidence put into public is as good as that square Enix claim.

Both are useless to follow until a public court case is up to make judgement of the actual evidence provided.

And before you go testimony = evidence, keep in mind that testimonies that supports the victim is common due to it provides good pr which helps ppls resumes, and oftenly via history, is false. This is why hard evidence is important in these kinds of accusations.

People jumping blizz bad without real evidence to another company with basically the same accusations are hypocrites.

The evidence would be the official statement from Blizzard that AA was fired last year for sexual misconduct (which was hushed up until this blew up) and the photos from his Facebook. Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised to eventually hear of a criminal case against him. Then there was the bathroom camera incident with Activision itself, which didn’t even get reported to the police until an employee notified them after receiving an email from HR.

That is evidence. Yes the testimonies are hearsay until corroborated or declared as substantial by the court. The difference between those testimonies and this is there are countless testimonies, all from the employees themselves. This is a single testimony, on youtube, from a third party reading off of a piece of paper.

Evidence that individuals did that? Or that Blizzard themselves did?

Photos can be doctored, and professionals could tell, if that was enough evidence itself then a court hearing would had been scheduled.

First this was already public knowledge, the actions blizz did to him was appropriate and what they could do with their power. Termination causes normally by law is private information. They can say and hint on why he was fired, but cannot say why, or they can be hit with a slander suit.

I am also aware of this one. The camera thing was done without blizzards know how and they also handled this one appropriately according to what I read.

These are not evidence that Blizzard themselves as an organization is guilty of sexual conduct alone. If there is more evidence, it would be presented in court.

There have been over 50 current and former Blizzard employees who have publicly confirmed the behavior in the report. That is a “bit” more then the Square Enix claim.

Except there is real evidence.

This is where you are wrong. A single anonymous accusation being presented by an untrustworthy source is not even close to the same thing.

Please do research about people making false public testimonies to make there resumes look good. You’d be surprised by how common it is.

Testimonies is not good hard evidence. Nor is online pictures.

Except I am not.

So just to be clear, 50 CURRENT and former employees confirm this and you brush it off as them making false statements to pad resumes?

Do you know that most of the civil trial will be testimonies?

You are not only wrong, but you seem to have an agenda. Good day.

please do research about the penalties involved with lying on a deposition. This isn’t some political shill game where lying on sworn testimony can get pardoned if the politician you lie on behalf of gets in power. They lie about this, they can face legal penalties. 50 people doing that is highly unlikely not to mention the behaviour was acknowledged and corroborated by people named in the suit.

Which may or may not be false testimonies without evidence to back them up…

Depends on the severity of the case, if they just have testimonies it would be thrown out.

One I don’t have an agenda, but good try with the assumption, which is the only thing you seem to be good at since your entire arguement is on assumptions. But I am also not wrong. Good day though.

Lying to media has no punishment. Testimony with actual law enforcement (the investigation is being done by the private sector, not officials) must by law remain under secrecy.

The fact we know there is over 50 and that the testimonies is public stands to say they are not under legal obligation to be honest until court day.

You have no idea what a deposition is do you? I didn’t say media, I said deposition as in legal testimony submitted to a bloody court. Civil courts don’t involve law enforcement but still carry penalties for LYING. You clearly have no idea what ur talking about.

No court preceding had started yet, so your disposition arguenent would be media baisef only. Not all 50 will be in court either.

This was all of Activision/Blizzard not just Blizzard…the suicide and the sex toys were with Activision and the CoD playing was Troika…so its pervasive across the company as a whole.

Deposition, not ‘disposition’. Take the traffic cone off your head and get a hobby.

Heh, sounds like you got no actual arguement.

You being clueless, unaware of how the world works and unable to say ‘deposition’ when I’ve written it several times prior doesn’t need an ‘argument’.

You are arguing with someone who believes an untrustworthy source reading an unverifiable story that he claims is from a male harassment victim from Square Enix should have the same reaction as what is going on at Blizzard. He also seems to not understand what is involved in a civil case like this.

So just to sum up the info that he doesn’t think we should consider:
Blizzard has had over 50 current and former employee publicly confirm the allegations (including some high level people).
Blizzard’s original statement said they have changed since the investigation started.
They fired AA for activities the report claimed he was allowed to do unchecked for years.
They fired the head of HR which the report claimed HR retaliated against employees and ignored this behavior.

That is in addition to the original claim of this coming from a 2 year state investigation.

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