SPY should be allowed, but just know you use a crutch

spy is for scrubs who can’t handle pvp

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No it’s not lel I can handle pvp just fine . I like adding people to my kos list and seek revenge later :smirk:

it doesn’t do anything new, the default ui gives you the same info, you just need to know it’s there? is using the UI a crutch now?

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Is this better for you ? I’ve only pvp on this toon a tiny bit been enjoying leveling an alt that I might make my main for classic instead :roll_eyes:

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Right like lol

Oh, its Jugga, now I understand

the default UI tells you the level and where someone is just by them entering stealth? thats new!

yes it does, it’s right there in the combat log

Wasnt this an addon that was used in wrath or so that they banned then?

A day in the life of your average griefer

Tries to stealth up on unsuspecting victim

Uhoh hes got anti ganker detection addon

QQ Blizzard thats not fair break that addonn now!!!

It really, truly, is an incredibly lame addon. But not quite as lame as the people who zealously jump to its defense on the basis of, “combat log, therefore.”

And, though I appreciate the OP’s tolerance, does anyone recall the addon AVR? It rose to prominence during ICC progression. It could display the landing points of putricides slimes, etc. Trivialized the entire raid. And of course it did, the raid was designed under the assumption that any participating players would be using their own faculties to contend with the various encounter-specific abilities that each boss possessed. Yet, the discussions around AVR at the time were much the same as the talks about Spy during these past weeks- an unending parade of players jumping to its defense, citing that same basic reason, “combat log, therefore.” But, anyone familiar with AVR knows how the situation ended. Blizzard adjusted their systems such that the addon was rendered inoperable. And the thing of it is, AVR existed long before that point in time, it was just seldom used. But when its existence became common knowledge during ICC and after guilds started insisting raiders have it, that’s when the wheels began to turn. Blizzard had to take a stance.

And Spy is more or less the same as AVR. So, just because Spy, like AVR, is utilizing features in the game, like the combat log, that doesn’t make the end result ok, AVR all but proved that.

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you forgot the single line many people used as well

LAG

I don’t use the PvP training wheels addon. The thing about most humans is we are like electricity, we take the path of least resistance.

To the people that use this addon don’t delude yourselves you know this addon helps you in a way that was probably not originally intended. Whether it’s allowed or not is up to Blizzard though.

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As a rogue I support this add-on, it’s invaluable in helping to find stealthers near their flightmasters.

11/18 03:22:43.456 SPELL_AURA_APPLIED,Player-4727-01673218,“Gythriel-Windseeker”,0x511,0x0,Player-4727-01673218,“Gythriel-Windseeker”,0x511,0x0,768,“Cat Form”,0x1,BUFF
11/18 03:22:43.462 SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS,Player-4727-01673218,“Gythriel-Windseeker”,0x511,0x0,0000000000000000,nil,0x80000000,0x80000000,768,“Cat Form”,0x1,0000000000000000,0000000000000000,0,0,0,0,0,-1,0,0,0,0.00,0.00,1433,0.0000,0
11/18 03:22:44.525 SPELL_AURA_APPLIED,Player-4727-01673218,“Gythriel-Windseeker”,0x511,0x0,Player-4727-01673218,“Gythriel-Windseeker”,0x511,0x0,5215,“Prowl”,0x1,BUFF
11/18 03:22:44.525 SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS,Player-4727-01673218,“Gythriel-Windseeker”,0x511,0x0,0000000000000000,nil,0x80000000,0x80000000,5215,“Prowl”,0x1,0000000000000000,0000000000000000,0,0,0,0,0,-1,0,0,0,0.00,0.00,1433,0.0000,0
11/18 03:22:50.162 SPELL_AURA_REMOVED,Player-4727-01673218,“Gythriel-Windseeker”,0x511,0x0,Player-4727-01673218,“Gythriel-Windseeker”,0x511,0x0,768,“Cat Form”,0x1,BUFF
11/18 03:22:50.329 SPELL_AURA_REMOVED,Player-4727-01673218,“Gythriel-Windseeker”,0x511,0x0,Player-4727-01673218,“Gythriel-Windseeker”,0x511,0x0,5215,“Prowl”,0x1,BUFF
11/18 03:23:22.709 SPELL_AURA_APPLIED,Player-4727-01842934,“Vaxtor-Windseeker”,0x518,0x0,Player-4727-01842934,“Vaxtor-Windseeker”,0x518,0x0,2457,“Battle Stance”,0x1,BUFF
11/18 03:23:22.709 SPELL_AURA_APPLIED,Player-4727-01842934,“Vaxtor-Windseeker”,0x518,0x0,Player-4727-01842934,“Vaxtor-Windseeker”,0x518,0x0,5242,“Battle Shout”,0x1,BUFF
11/18 03:23:22.709 SPELL_AURA_APPLIED,Player-4727-01842934,“Vaxtor-Windseeker”,0x518,0x0,Player-4727-01842934,“Vaxtor-Windseeker”,0x518,0x0,11196,“Recently Bandaged”,0x1,DEBUFF
11/18 03:23:25.784 SPELL_AURA_REMOVED,Player-4727-01842934,“Vaxtor-Windseeker”,0x518,0x0,Player-4727-01842934,“Vaxtor-Windseeker”,0x518,0x0,11196,“Recently Bandaged”,0x1,DEBUFF
11/18 03:23:29.766 SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS,Player-4727-01842934,“Vaxtor-Windseeker”,0x518,0x0,Creature-0-4411-0-276-441-00005254E5,“Black Dragon Whelp”,0xa48,0x0,100,“Charge”,0x1,0000000000000000,0000000000000000,0,0,0,0,0,-1,0,0,0,0.00,0.00,1433,0.0000,0
11/18 03:23:29.945 SPELL_ENERGIZE,Player-4727-01842934,“Vaxtor-Windseeker”,0x518,0x0,Player-4727-01842934,“Vaxtor-Windseeker”,0x518,0x0,100,“Charge”,0x1,0000000000000000,0000000000000000,0,0,0,0,0,-1,0,0,0,0.00,0.00,1433,0.0000,0,9.0000,0.0000,1,0
11/18 03:23:29.945 SPELL_AURA_APPLIED,Player-4727-01842934,“Vaxtor-Windseeker”,0x518,0x0,Creature-0-4411-0-276-441-00005254E5,“Black Dragon Whelp”,0xa48,0x0,7922,“Charge Stun”,0x1,DEBUFF
11/18 03:23:30.871 SWING_DAMAGE,Player-4727-01842934,“Vaxtor-Windseeker”,0x518,0x0,Creature-0-4411-0-276-441-00005254E5,“Black Dragon Whelp”,0xa48,0x0,0000000000000000,0000000000000000,0,0,0,0,0,-1,0,0,0,0.00,0.00,1433,0.0000,0,55,68,-1,1,0,0,0,nil,1,nil

remove this addon from game for negatively affecting my gameplay.

Don’t matter, got honor

Hi Hammis!

but it doesnt scrub

yes it does here’s what you do little noob you got to you combat log you right click on it and open settings. you then select to make a new filter and title it whatever you want. on the filters setting you make sure that only enemy player is checked. tada you now have spy vision now all you need to do make the mouse over macro and then you can target said players from your combat log just like spy lets you… ~rips off your rogue patch~ you don’t deserve to be a rogue.