Spy Classic Addon needs to go

Because they cut down the time they needed to spend on their own UI. They made an API for themselves and then just allowed parts of it to be used by anyone. Thus addon authors could add functionality to the game that Blizzard didn’t have to spend money on developing.

The default UI is horrendous, addon authors make it bearable.

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You have the opportunity to use it like everyone else so I do not see the problem. If you choose not to use it then that is on you and don’t complain.

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Spy addons have been a thing for a long time. Don’t know about classic, wasn’t here for launch, but it existed since late BC for sure. It’s not game breaking but it does ruin the surprise!

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I wish they’d get rid of all addons across all versions of the game tbh.

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Been using these before release. Blizzard doesn’t care

#MyClassic

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This crap needs to go.

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I mean, yeah. Players will demand literal gameshark, you just have to have the brain power as a developer to just…not allow it?

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An enemy needs to be nearby for your client to pick up on their combat log. It’s not like this addon can detect people a mile away

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The only thing this addon appears to do that I don’t already accomplish by keeping my head on a swivel (like anyone on a PvP server should) is maintain a handy optional list of people I want to specifically murder.

Unless it can pick up a stealthed rogue where I would otherwise be incapable of detecting them, I don’t see how this brings much to the table.

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No add-on that plays the game for you in some capacity or affects gameplay should be allowed. RP profiles, cosmetics like customized UI and such, totally fine, this spy addon though? Absolutely not, it’s almost mind boggling it ever got off the ground.

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Breaking this addon woukd affect damage meters.

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I mean you can literally say this not only about add-ons but any form of third party software.
Would you be okay with someone using a program to dodge for them? Why not? Anyone could use it, right?

If it wasn’t for the fact on paper it’s being allowed, for all intents and purposes these kind of add-ons would be considered cheating, it’s a third party program used to gain an advantage in the game over those without it.

You can not defend this add-on without defending any other cheat programs.

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What an absolute load of crap. This is built right into the game, using the in-game framework and the in-game programming language provided by the developer to players to create addons. “Third Party” means using an external piece of software to interact with the game. Comparing a pretty combat log UI and warning system with something like Glider is disingenuous and stupid in the extreme.

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Semantics on the third party thing, you know damn well I’m referring to the people making it.
Also no, it’s not disingenuous to compare it, where do you draw the line beyond just Blizzard saying it’s okay?
How do you objectively defend one over the other? At their core they both do a job for you, giving you an advantage, if the game was designed to work in such a way, why not have it truly built in? Oh because it’s stupid.

And if you want the game to play itself you should go back to retail.

This is literally no different than an addon that warns [Player is the bomb]. It’s a standard thing built right into the combat log. It, in no way “plays the game for you”. It provides information that is readily available in the game. As was already pointed out, most of us on PvP servers used to run around with a copy of the Combat Log popped out and set to enemy actions only. Then this came out and saved us the hassle of having to do that. It’s a simple LUA information relay that pulls the above information out and shows it to you in a pretty popup. It doesn’t stop you getting ganked, if that’s what you’re thinking, it can’t reveal the location of a stealthed Rogue or a Shadowmelded NE, all it can do is tell you they are somewhere in combat range.

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Going to stop right here because it’s clear you’re not thinking this through before hitting submit.

Yes it’s in the combat log, and you know what a player would have to do? Pay attention to the combat log, this is a form of player interacting with the game, and putting in the effort of watching the log to be possibly rewarded with more awareness of your surroundings.

With this add-on though, it literally does that for you, automatically, on a principle level it is the exact same thing has using a program to dodge mechanically speaking.

The only difference is Blizzard says okay to one and not the other, but the fact Classic even has to exist and the current situation of things, you’d be brainless to just mindlessly accept what modern Blizzard does.

We should keep these automatic streamlined things to Retail if they need exist at all, cause you know, you could just get good.

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Tbere is nothing inherently wrong with parsing the combat log. I parse the combat log to helo make sure my WW monk doesnt hit the same ability twice in a row. My addon doesnt play the game for me. It just privides information.

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And your point is? You’re making a huge, huge deal over something trivial. As I pointed out, this is the PvP equivalent of DBM, another addon that has been in the game since 2005.

I don’t really get what your problem is? You keep blathering on about “Retail” when you know damned well this is a Vanilla era addon.

For reference, another couple of Vanilla era addons that made the game easier - Decurse and Healbot. Both PvE addons and considered essential to end game raiding.

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it’s cancer in BGs and que’d PVP anything…you always know what the enemy has and can look them up.

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This garbage needs to go what’s the point of pvp with this crap? it is a cheat.

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