[Spoilers Inside] High Lord of the Ebon Blade is Alliance

The RL Assaults of Hordeplayer hunting Alliance players across the car park and beat them up was many years ago, this never happened again and Blizzard itself condemned this act in the strongest possible terms and banned those responsible from their games forever. On top of that they filed additional charges.

And every healthy player should be ashamed by this behavior, ashamed and even hold grudge against such Idi***

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It still happened and Blizzard promotes such behavior in its marketing. They still let topics like this get made.

Fools are not limited to one faction, they exist on both sides.

The way some of you dudes talk about the factions (“MY faction”) make me think of the irish guy from braveheart: “my island” “your island? you mean ireland?” “yeah. it’s mine”.

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Nonsense. If Blizzard wanted to beat Covid, they’ll just write that they beat Covid. :upside_down_face:

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FTFY. :upside_down_face:

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Makes me wonder just how much of “Player Choice” in quests are actually canon.

You could be joking, but… some ex-scourge, be it forsaken or maybe some still in Northrend, might still care about the living relatives. Living in the alliance.

If we get a continuation of the val’kyr story, Eyir was trapped by the horde warchief and was freed by the alliance member. So if Genn would ever bother asking Eyir for any info about val’kyr and the pact… unless he was too heavily changed since MoP days, he would only do it for the benefit of the alliance.

San’layn are undead. And if saronite mining operation is not a mistake but really a hint that undead are extra resilient to the void, then it is the alliance than has a race with a void-related problem.

Just saying.

iirc during the prepatch 2 of the 4 horsement went to Orgrimmar, 2 - to Stormwind. Could be temporary. Could be a foreshadowing of a bigger split. Only time can tell. Or the devs. But they won’t. They seem to prefer to stay vague.

Possbibly that could be his character arc to get Taelia to “forgive” him for something or another thing like that.

After his loss to Sylvanas… is he? I remember that quite a few were disappointed.

Could be just a consequence of the current dev team focusing on the story a bit more than before. If they would redo Cataclysm, we could see a lot more from Thrall.


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On my phone so forgive me if my post isn’t up to snuff.

I dont think Bolvar is the leader of the Ebon Blade. The Deathlord, aka the player DK is.

As we saw in Legion the Highlord rank in the EB is beneath the Deathlord, and if you do the beta on a DK toon that did Legion, you are still called the Deathlord.

Im pretty sure Bolvar is just in command of the EB forces in Shadowlands but isnt the leader of the entire faction. Sorta like how Turalyon is in charge of leading the Allinace forces but isnt the leader of the Alliance…if that makes sense.

Also Im not going to get into the whole should/shouldn’t he be alliance argument BUT I will point out to those claiming “he’s been neutral much longer than he’s been alliance” I will say thats actually a a little unfair point. Bolvar was an npc in the game you could see, talk to, interact with and quest for from Vanilla to the end of Wrath.

Bolvar as the lich king didntbexist in the game at all and is a character you dont even see or interact with until Legion, and even then you see him like twice and the other times its just his voice. And his appearances in BFA are even smaller. Players interacted with living Alliance Bolvar a lot more than LK Bolvar

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Turalyon and Alleria had an entire content patch dedicated to both sides helping them out on Argus. That’s more than what Thrall got. Rhonin was leading one of those Alliance leaning cities gone neutral for all of Wrath. Malfurion was there for Hyjal and Val’shara and had a dungeon and a raid all to himself.

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Thats not true, thrall get the entire 4.3 Patch and are big part about 4.1 and 4.2

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What was his role in 4.1? That was all Vol’jin and the trolls.

4.2 he had his questline.

4.3 he appeared for a dungeon and a raid.

4.3 was litteraly onle the dungeons and theraid.

4.2 he had his long questline.

4.1 he have the visions of 4.2

Three dungeons, only one of which he had an appearance in, and the raid. A long questline. And his 4.1 contribution was so small I barely remember it so it couldn’t have been that significant. All together it’s less that what Turalyon, Alleria, and Malfurion each contributed to neutral causes over the years.

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Doubtful, considering how Eyir responded to even Alliance players in Stormheim after that. I get the feeling that she still thinks of the Horde and the Alliance as no better then each other, plus she might consider Genn’s Sneak attack dishonorable, considering their Warrior mentality.

Interesting question to debate. I can understand the concern for Horde players following yet another Alliance character.

On the other hand, even if they change his dialogue, will Bolvar ever truly be a neutral character?

Unless they give the character a complete memory wipe, he is still the Bolvar Fordragon who was Regent of Stormwind, Guardian (Father figure) of Anduin Wrynn and a commander of Alliance forces in Northrend.

I am not sure that the solution to the valid concerns of Horde players is to further “neutralize” Alliance characters so that it is more comfortable for Horde players to take quests from them.

Far better to either develop Horde characters and give each faction its own Khadgar-like figure for an expansion, or if that is too much work then create a new non faction aligned character to fill that role - a Lorewalker Cho-like figure.

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Maybe. I just pointed out that if this part of the story will ever pay off, the faction affiliation of Sylvanas and Genn would move the perception of who to favour from 50%(a)-50%(h) to 51%(a)-49%(h). And the former views of Genn if he ever get involved, would push it to like 53%(a)-47%(h).

You know, the usual made up statistics to make something fake to appear a bit more legit? :joy:


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Malfurion, maybe, he got Hyjal, he got Firelands, he got Val’Sharraj and Night mare, i agree on that term. But Turalyon and Alleria? never ever :smiley:

They were featured in an entire patch of content that was so big they had to separate into three parts, both right at the forefront through pretty much all of it.

And it had a dungeon with Alleria.

And a raid with both.

How is this less than Thrall’s total contribution?

Alleria have litteraly 6- 7 quests. Turalyion 2-4 quests.

Thrall have an dungeon
An long questline
An raid
An entire book where featured only him.

Thrall was the face of an entire addon. Alleria and Turalyon for an single patch.

Pls, be objektive.