[Spoilers Inside] High Lord of the Ebon Blade is Alliance

Time doesn’t matter with his track record. I find it weird that all the NPCs are just happily ignoring what he’s done.

It’s like the Maiev situation all over again.

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It doesn’t matter what your other posts are. You’re either with the Alliance or against it. You don’t support the Alliance so you’re helping the Horde. It’s clearly obvious Horde posters hate the Alliance on the story forums so it’s up to us to fight back against them. The Horde must have as little spotlight as possible so that their evil doesn’t win.

Well, his deeds as Lk were not that bad, you have to say, even Maiev did more bad things. But I agree in this respect that he should no longer be a normal mortal, or rather, should no longer perceive himself as such. He simply no longer belongs to the living, nor to the dead.

But Faranoth, i´ll miss you, we have nice discussions in the past, and you´re in my eyes a voice of reason here, i wish you the best.

And when the horde jumps off the bridge, do you do it too? That way nobody wins anything, you know, nobody. I say the same thing to the horde extremists here.

This isn’t an RP forum… can we make this clear? I’m not Horde or alliance in real life.

I play on both Alliance and Horde characters. I want good story for both of them. I don’t want to get on my Horde character and feel left out because our neutral guide decided to give his heart and soul to Anduin. Heck, I hate that even playing on a night elf character.

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This isn’t me RPing. I’m being serious. The Horde players would kill us all if they could and it’s beyond me how no one else is seeing this. This very topic is proof of it and they’re just allowed to get away with it! They spread their hate and everyone acts like they’re the good guys!

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I’m sorry to say but I think you’re the one who needs a break from the forums.

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You OK, buddy?

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I could leave the forums but still get assaulted at Blizzcon

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The Horde players want a war, yes, a justified war without feeling bad and with victories, yes, I agree with you, but that wouldn’t kill you in real life.

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There is no blizzcon. Even Blizzard can’t beat Covid.

He murdered the red Dragonflight, assaulted Light’s Hope, killed anyone who came near Icecrown, including a member of the Sunstrider family. He isn’t the same Bolvar. This wasn’t the Lich King- it was Bolvar the Lich King, with a very intact soul unlike Arthas.
If Arthas’ soul is blamed for the Lich King’s actions, why not Bolvar who was very much in control?

I don’t understand how the Argent Crusade agreed to work with him.

Thanks, you too! I’ll be back if the story improves (in my eyes).

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Just a friendly reminder that most people on this forum, Alliance and Horde, can separate fantasy from reality and not stab you in real life over your faction affiliation. Not me though, I’ll cut you Horde.

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What we hate is the prospect of another Legion situation, after another round of villain batting for the sake of setting up a future expansion left us laughably destitute in our character roster. The reason the Bolvar issue has many Horde players concerned, at its core, is we’re worried that even if its better than the Legion situation its a sign we Hordies are looking forward to another expansion where we Hordies are a mere footnote in the Alliance’s story. Especially when we’ve been left with a disgustingly underdeveloped that supposedly comprises our Horde Council.

We need time for our remaining characters to be developed into something worthwhile, but with Blizz’s terrible track record on doing that for Horde characters (outside of when they plan to kill them off or have them betray the Horde); their clear comfort zone with the more traditional fantasy tropes of the Alliance; and their over-reliance on Alliance demigods to shoulder the constantly escalating Big-Bads … there is a reason to be concerned we wont see much of that in Shadowlands. Outside of Vol’jin, and maybe (frustratingly) Calia Menethil.

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Does Talanji feature much in this expansion, for that matter? You would think so given her father’s pact.

Not as far as I’m aware. She had a major role in Shadow’s Rising, but within SLs itself? My other concern is that rather than developing characters that could really benefit from a setting like the land of the dead, what Horde characters do get attention are those that are already developed fairly OK … but they’ve proven to be “safespace” comfort zones for Blizz’s writing.

For example, I think Maldraxxus … I think “Ooh, well we have Voss shoved into the leadership role for the Forsaken, maybe she can run into her dad here and actually start growing into the role. It sure would alleviate some fears that even she’s just being used as a placeholder for the VERY Alliance themed Calia to take over”. Instead, it kind of looks like what we’ll be getting instead is more Thrall and his dead parent issues. And dead-parent issue Thrall is ALWAYS the worst Thrall.

Or I look at Revendreth and Kael’thas and I think “Hey, is it finally time?! Are we FINALLY going to see Rommath get some awesome development? Kael having been one of his closest friends, and who’s fate Rommath still feels regret and guilt over? Or are we just going to go back to Blizz’s comfort zone of Lor’themar and Liadrin because as much as I love them … Blizz clearly see’s them as easy to write?”. I like the Blood Elves in the Horde, but the way Blizz is using them lately…

What Horde representation we do get in SLs I fear will be not placed on the characters that need it, but rather Blizz’s “go-to” Horde reps that don’t need that added attention or development (or Blizz’s weird Calia thing they seem adamant to shove down the Forsaken and Horde playerbase’s throats).

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that was optionally, you could limited to your action to one Dragon, you don´t have to kill all, if you don´t want.

yes, he did, for the four horseman, a powerfull weapon against the legion.

If i remember correctly, she were killed much longer before, maybe i missread it, but i´m not sure if this one of his missdeeds.

Lyandra eventually discovered that after Felo’melorn was lost by Kael’thas, it had been taken to Icecrown Citadel and that it resided there still. She made her way through the empty, labyrinthine halls of the citadel until she found the blade mounted upon a dais at the end of a dismal passage. Just as she reached out to claim the sword, however, the door slammed shut behind her, trapping her within. Before long, Lyandra was raised as an undead minion of the Lich King, who entrusted the blade to her to aid in battle against the Burning Legion.

This seems she was killed by arthas, not bolvar.

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The Horde has no characters, so another Legion situation is what you’re going to get. The Horde doesn’t deserve any characters, they don’t appreciate them, and deserve to be a footnote to the Alliance. So join the Alliance.

What you need, is for all the Horde characters to be killed. Because they’re just villains. It takes time away from the Alliance. The Alliance is where the quality is. Supporting such a weak faction is a waste of time.

most likely, a bain, Thrall, Calia and Vol’jin Combo as focus Characters on Hordeside.

Maybe we get in an future Patch an Rommath Apperance, i would love it, i hope he get developement, he ´s one of my favorites of all Characters in wow.

AND i want an Fight between Rommath and Jaina on Equal ground. Fire vs ICE

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Wow, so by “The Horde Playerbase would kill me IRL if they could” you mean “I would kill Horde Players IRL because I hate them and their faction so much they shouldn’t even be in my Alliance game”?

And, yeah, no. I’ll take my flawed, underdeveloped faction over your pristine, flawless one any day of the weak. Blizz may use my faction as a plot device to settup stories at the Faction’s expense, but that’s clearly because they don’t think they could get away with using the Alliance in the same way. They wrote themselves into a corner with Blue Team, to the point where if you expect to be anything other than the super friends you’ll be sorely dissapointed.

At least the Horde still has the possibility of variety and nuance left in the tank, even if that potential is never met or used. And the cultures and races that comprise it are frankly just more interesting to me than the Alliance’s.

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the alliance had back then flaws, …they got only forgotten by blizzard and is wrote in this “All follow the highking” s***, i think, without highking and more attention on the individuality between the peoples of the alliance, many things would be better, for sure, not all peoples of the Alliance are a garanty of moral integrity.