*spoilers* - Including genocide in your story and refusing to properly address it is disgusting Blizzard!

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Solid defense. Thanks for confirming my beliefs.

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AFAIK, Moonwells are just luxury healing hottubs

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hmmm. :thinking:

I might be remembering this wrong.

I was sure they returned to a moonwell and were remade(kinda).

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They have healing powers and all contain essences of the Well of Eternity. So it can ease pain and heal injuries, but not bring people back to life.

Don’t quote me on that though ._.

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And while they did the Horde ultimately wanted to use the people as a bargaining chip/take the resources of the land, something they failed to do.

Our objective was to stop the Horde and push it back, something we ultimately did.

And a new city will someday rise for both Night elf and Forsaken. As for Ashenvale THERE IS NO LORE STATING THE HORDE HAS IT.

This has happened for years, in the end the good guys usually win. So why not wait until the end of SL to make your judgement.

And Ion said a dozen other nonsensical things about the high elves/blood elves and look where we are now. Blizzard has a tendency of saying things that can change later.

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I’m not sure about the Alliance mission table, but in the Horde one, it explains we’re still actively fighting in Ashenvale

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The Alliance has it, so I am not sure where Elesana is getting her lore.

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Lol what? The Horde completely demolished Darnassus. They turned the city hub to ashes and left. What point would there be to conquering ashes?

Let’s play devil’s advocate and say there’s no Alliance resistance. What do the Horde gain holding that plot of scorched earth?

Come on man


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That’s a lie.

They didn’t say for now, they said that 8.1 was the revenge for Teldrassil and that’s it.

Only after an outrage they changed it, it still shows that the writers think what they wrote into these intros.

Except when they show pictures of the Burning of Teldrassil for people to cheer, or have the Horde soldier’s cheer while burning it and still fully supporting everything Sylvanas does even after they commited those crimes.

How can Sylvanas and/or Nathanos drop loot when they’re friendly suddenly ?

Their goal was to secure Kalimdor, they did. They didn’t even start the war for the ressources, it was just a nice extra for them.

Not when it mattered, in the war of thorns.

Good joke.

Besides the Horde getting full control of it in the war of thorns and the Night Elves never reclaiming it.

What good is going to come out of a Tyrande that instantly dies and Sylvanas and Nathanos being our heroes? I’m not going to wait 2 years to say the exact same things I’m saying right now.

But it wasn’t Ion who said it. So far that statement that 8.1 was the Night Elves’ revenge held more than true.

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The Horde destroyed Darnassus but wanted all the resources of Darkshore and Ashenvale. Now the Horde is dirt poor and still out of resources. The entire war was a failure on every imaginable scale.

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With Darnasses under control of the Horde, Tyrande would pressure Anduin to send military help to retrieve it. However, Genn would be furious if help was given because they still haven’t reclaimed Gilneas. Ergo, Anduin would be torn between helping the Night Elves or the Worgen or both. Their military as well as the Horde’s was devastated by the Third Invasion. He would be locked in a stalemate as tyrande withdrew back to Kalimdor to attempt to seize back her lands.

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While we looted Darnassus, pillaged those who tried to sack UC and succumbed to blight, and made a mint off Azerite being the demonstrable top dogs at the start of the expac


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Good I have always hated Tyrande long before BFA happened I can’t wait until she dies.

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We canonically lost the war though. We agreed to armistice, not vice versa.

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The war story line was written worse then the last season of GoT, so there’s that. Saurfang, my waifu got jobbed like a Legion mob.

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To be honest, this is a fair point.

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So has it actually been confirmed Tyrande dies? Or does the op just think she is going to die?

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Op just thinks

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Kalimdor no more belong to them than at the start of the War. Hell, the night elves are back in Nodrassil.

Sometimes the bad guys win at the start of war. Theramore and Stormwind were destroyed but ultimately many still survived and rebuilt.

You don’t know what happens. None of us knows.

And this is what they have said since:

The Alliance seems overly accepting and forgiving of the fact the Horde burned down Teldrassil and genocided the Elves, in my view. I feel a bit like that is glossed over, perhaps?

In the epilogue scenes in Visions of N’Zoth, we wanted to show that Tyrande clearly has not forgotten what happened and will not accept any treaty that doesn’t see Sylvanas—and the Horde—answer for the crimes of burning the World Tree and the murder of innocents.

Wars have a way of changing the world and those who inhabit it, in ways both broad and subtle. These changes do not resolve cleanly in a short span of time; that wouldn’t feel genuine or true to the deep wounds inflicted by the Fourth War. So, while many fans are eager to see the resolution of what happened at Teldrassil, there is a lot more story that needs to unfold before it can be fully addressed. These characters have a long way to go, and many more lessons to learn.

So many wrong info in one post. 1) You burn Darnassus before you could loot anything. You blighted UC thus you couldn 't have possibly pillage anything. And even if you started the expac top dog, Lother’mar and I quote says this:

“The Horde’s armies are depleted, our treasuries emptied, our resources stretched thin. A blow to us now would . . . Well, I am sure you can easily imagine the outcome.”

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Op has been making up lore this entire post, so I think OP is making stuff up

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