[SPOILER] Is Baine key to Redemption for the Horde?

Wouldnt be the first time that ‘logical’ character follow through is shafted. Or that they’d use that development to set Tyrande up as a future villian. Or do any number of other things.

All I do know is that the war wont last past BfA and the Derek exchange is undoubtably a touchstone moment for why that is. Hopefully not the only one ( we do already have Lost Honor but mmmm…) but it will be counted as such.

I’d like that, but it’s very obvious. I would prefer that Saurfang take the cenarius’ axe and bring thura with him.

Just saying that all the leaders of the Alliance made it clear that if Sylvanas doesn’t surrender to them they will try to kill her.
They’ve already drawn their line in the sand and aren’t interested in ‘peace’ talks. They’ve pushed Sylvanas further into a corner.
Why would anyone expect her not to try to kill all the Alliance leaders at this point?

Because these Alliance mains are obviously alright with selling out members of the Horde to the Alliance because they don’t like her, which is why I refuse to see anyone on this thread who would willingly roll over for the Alliance after all the stuff they did and then just be like: Nah fam, you slaughtered innocent civilians, priests, plundered their treasures and murdered the king of a group who you DIDN’T want to join the Horde. And claim that they deserve it. You are alright, I mean, it is only bad when the Horde does it, when Alliance does it, it is fine. The Alliance bootlickers will bend over backwards to make excuses, just like how Baine made excuses for the Alliance for what they did in Taurajo.

Well no, shes dead regardless. Thankfully shes doing a fantastic job of alienating the other Horde leaders who might’ve stood with her as push came to shove.