Spell Batching in Classic

[Thundertotem-blackwater-raiders (Thundertotem)]

Sorry brother…didn’t see the ? at the end of the sentence. They had some variant of it and was trying to replicate it, but never had any success.

[Hystoresis-zuljin]

So… vanish will be broken in pvp again then? Totally loved getting white hit out of vanish…

[Miskatonik-ragnaros (Miskatonik)]

thanks! very cool.

[Studmuffyn-veknilash (Studmuffyn)]

no worries, just something I was wondering about today when I saw the post, hope it works for the pvp crowd the way they hope it will:O)

[Zisifar-argent-dawn]

Most people wouldn’t have never noticed.

It was very noticable especially during the PvP grind. Having two warriors trade positions stunned was always funny to me.

[Dawnspirit-wyrmrest-accord]

If my heals are lower priority, does it mean it’ll be harder and less responsive when trying to keep people alive, or will I not notice much of a difference 99% of the time?

As a healer, healing someone, it’ll mean your heal going off on your screen but the server possibly processing your heal in the batch after your target died. Basically people will die on you more often, through no fault of your own, you’ll just have to be more on your toes when it comes to not letting people get low.

this is mostly going to be seen as buggy, rather than delivering that “true” vanilla experience. What you call “authentic” I actually call “fake”.

Only by people who never played at a time when double cc was possible or know nothing about Vanilla.

In the era of WoW vanilla, 50% of America didn’t even have access to DSL (true story look it up not just some random number), they were still running on 56k dial up internet.

What 50% of the country used at the time is kind of irrelevant. The real question is how many of the people playing wow had DSL/Cable compared to dial-up. I would guess the majority of gamers on MMO/online games didn’t use dial-up.

Most people wouldn’t have never noticed.

Pretty hard to not notice when you CCed someone at the same time they CCed you.

[Thundertotem-blackwater-raiders (Thundertotem)]

Pretty hard to not notice when you CCed someone at the same time they CCed you.

That’s if you pvp…I don’t, so I never noticed it. I didn’t know Spell Batching was a thing until I read about it on the Classic forums.

[Dawnspirit-wyrmrest-accord]

I mean, I was stationed in Japan at the time, never had lower than 400ms, so in pve I never noticed it either. I did pvp though.

[Pintero-moon-guard (Pintero)]

Only people who do a lot of 1v1’s and premades are going to notice this. It’s sorta funny for us who don’t take it to seriously. I mean i personally loved charge trading in duels. It made who could stance dance quicker for intercept seem more skilled, small things like that.

(I mean you guys REMEMBER CHARGE Before the change?! BWAHAHHA)

[Zisifar-argent-dawn]

I didn’t know Spell Batching was a thing until I read about it on the Classic forums.

I dunno. I vaguely remember having frostbolts fly from my hands just as Onyxia feared me. Same batch so both happened. Character forced to look away and the spell still happened. Even in PvE you notice it. If you played back then. (:

[Durrus-sargeras]

For WoW Classic, we’re moving spell casts to a low-priority loop that will cause them to be processed at the frequency that best fits how the game actually played in version 1.12.

[Sabetha-turalyon (Sabetha)]

You’re not wrong, but the spirit of his post isn’t entirely wrong either. . .

To be clear- wow classic won’t have 100% authentic recreation. They can aspire to it (noble!), but they won’t get there 100% no matter what they do. And some inauthentic things are made by conscious decision. There’s going to be limited loot trading, updated mail system, bfa client. These arent bad things necessarily, but they’re not authentic either.

For example, we wouldn’t want blizzard to crash their own servers every content patch for the sake of authenticity, right? Some things don’t need to be recreated. These are concious, subjective decisions to be made.

They’ve also scaled back loot trading because of concerns, and those things are all done for reasons beyond gameplay.

The argument that we should change gameplay simply because it’s not a pixel perfect recreation has never been a good one.

Blizzard has reinforced time and time again they want to make the gameplay as authentic as possible.

Who in the hell do you think was playing in 1080p in serious content with hardware we had back in 2004 are you crazy?

I moved up into HD resolutions only shortly after Vanilla WoW, and I was by no means an early adapter. Though the point is still that Vanilla WoW supported it, provided you had a computer that can handle it.

Yes it’s probably about as common as people who can handle 60FPS on max settings at 4k in modern games today, but that doesn’t mean it’s not authentic to support it.

and I’ve never played WoW on a resolution as low as the 800x640 mentioned.

[Nightsëa-nemesis (Nightsëa)]

OMG Thanks Classic Team! This is awesome!

http s://giphy.com/stickers/cat-cute-capoo-fjxupFeOlzwRnhKT0b

[anon26013520]

If they’re restoring something like spell batching, I think the guys invested in old AV have a real chance.

[Crypticwolf-bleeding-hollow]

It used to be the norm that combat flow and PvP balance were defined and tuned in a game where spell messages were resolved less frequently.

PvP balance

[Ninifix-wyrmrest-accord]

Two mages will be able to Polymorph each other somewhat reliably, resulting in two sheep nervously pacing around at range.

Expelliarmus!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAf3U0J8Se8

(sorry, couldn’t resist )

[Archamon-nerzhul (Archamon)]

Holy crap, I didn’t think you guys were even going to touch this. You guys are dedicated, and seem really passionate about this project. This was something some people were bummed about, but I feel like most were pretty neutral on, but you went the extra mile anyway.

[Cbaoth-illidan]

Point being?

Still isn’t the vanilla experience. A change in available hardware drastically changes the experience. It’s the same reason why watching certain movies on blu ray, look really crappy on a 4k TV from what you remember watching when it was originally released. Poor quality format, and poor quality hardware allow for the “galloping horse” effect.

Like I said I think the heart is in the right place, but I think the end result is lacking. I am entitled to my opinion right? looks around Yeah still free.

[Varrow-sargeras (Varrow)]

Imagine if the BfA team could communicate on meaningful things even like 25% as well as the Classic team.

[Cbaoth-illidan]

Well I had a crappy computer AND crappy connection. So I could go from 100 to dead, and never have even known what hit me.