My guild did exactly that. Not 8 holy paladins, but 3-5 holy IIRC
except i never claimed hybrid only raids happened in naxx.
i did say though, that hybrids pulled enough dps to meet the requirements for the boss.
funny how you keep trying to move the goal posts.
Honestly?
My expectation is that many hybrids will get raid spots as non healers, and many of them will do fine despite the hate that they can get.
I also expect that you’ll scream about how right you are the moment there is a single hybrid who doesn’t want to heal that doesn’t have a raid spot immediately thrown at them despite us never trying to claim that.
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considering hes already asking me to show him a hybrid only raid working in naxx…
Our guild will be running at least 1 feral, 1 balance, 1 shadow and 1 disc, 1 prot paladin, as well as at least 1 retribution paladin. It’s out Vanilla lineup for hybrids, and it works.
I will be playing one of the Holy paladin so long as we stick to the “alliance” plan. Ziryus is just being obtuse as usual because he wants everyone to min-max for some reason.
Maybe because he got benched and changed “min-max min-max min-max min-max” in his state of distraught rejection.
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Like I said it’ll be interesting to see how it actually plays out. And will you admit that if hybrids are in fact encountering the same issues in classic they did in vanilla it was in fact a game issue and not a player base issue?
remember that when your main tank warrior get poached.
/evilgrin
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I don’t have that problem, other guilds did because they were struggling to gear properly.
So you do agree that the difficult and unlikely hood of something happening factors into whether or not it is viable?
No Arena back in Classic, so I do see a possibility of maybe a late patch to balance out end game?? Just a guess
I have no problems acknowledge solid evidence right in front of me, but it has to be solid evidence. Preferably in contrast to something I actually said if you’re trying to catch on me on some kind of “See? You were wrong!” deal.
It can’t be imagined evidence against something you want to pretend I said.
If a sizable number of hybrids are running into resistance but we see top guilds using them anyway, then I can tell you right now that if you come to me in a year quoting this discussion I’ll tell you that there is evidence to suggest that it’s still not a game issue but rather a player perception issue because clearly the top guilds are using them and it’s working great for them.
and this time, there will be no “we were all garbage at the game” argument to hide behind that I see some people try to use to defend the fact that top guilds used them in Vanilla(even though I don’t buy that now in regards to the top guilds of 2004-2006).
If it turns out that even guilds who give them a fair shake are falling apart because of the hybrid’s lower performance in those roles then sure, I’ll say it was a gameplay thing.
Still gonna say they shouldn’t change it, but I’ll admit to it being a game thing =P
ret pally breaking the hybrid dps barrier, incoming. hehe
dracarian you can have all the balance you want. in retail. go play that.
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If Seal of the Crusader stacking turns out to be legit, I vote we do a raid that has nothing but Ret Paladins and Smite Priests for DPS.
Then post the video here on the forums for all the people who think hybrids are bad at DPS =P
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wow way to reach.
no. the difference is that nothing exists to make walking on the sun possible.
Death and Taxes has proven that hybrids could raid as dps in vanilla.
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if only that would be.
Unfortunately, the warriors would scream “Dey took err jerbs!” on the forums until blizzard over-nerfed it just like Blizzard over-nerfed bears in patch 2.0.10 when warriors screamed “Dey took err jerbs!” regarding druids at the beginning of the Burning Crusade.
So like I said the difficulty of something weighs into how viable it was.
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oh goodness gracious. lol
one thing has been witnessed happening - hybrid classes working in raiding guild.
the other thing hasn’t been witnessed happening - walking on the sun.
Nope. Viable is still purely about if it can be done or not.
Once you show me even a theory about how one can walk on the sun then I’ll admit it might be viable. Once you show me proof of it happening, I’ll admit it is viable.
I should also note that a theory is a rather specific thing in science. Saying “Well if we do this impossible thing we can’t do, it would work!” isn’t actually a scientific theory.
I should also note: A suit that could survive the heat and gravitational forces of the sun wouldn’t mean the person inside the suit would survive it so even IF such a suit were possible to built, even in theory, that’s still out.
I don’t think anyone here has talked about the spec viability about the…
…(wait for it)…
…ARCANE MAGE
!!!
I await people saying that arcane mages could do as much as the mage specs 