Sounds like they're gonna nerf Delve T8 rewards

[Reprise-whisperwind]

I don’t raid or do M+ due to life and time constraints so delves are my go-to. I would rather them not nerf them, but I would like to see some incentive to push for higher than 8’s.

My biggest complaint right now is aside from a few achievements I have no reason to push higher than 8’s to fill my vault. I also wish there was better access to gilded crests because even though I only do delves and open world content I still like to advance my gear as much as I can.

I’ve been wondering if they will change they type of key for season 2. One of the things I noticed before season 1 was everyone saving keys so when the season launched people could blow through 8 or so bountifuls in the first week.

[Getwrêcked-nerzhul]

@Nikolo-proudmoore

They created a popular new end-game system…and what you’re saying would essentually make it worthless.

this your first blizzard game?

[Snozay-area-52]

@Padgarre-lightbringer

I’m gonna assume that most players actually feel that ‘trivial’ difficulty is more up their alley than current M+

That’s fine if people prefer delves. The issue is delves reward too high of a reward for the difficulty.

[Snozay-area-52]

@Tiresias-moon-guard

They said the class they like to play. Not everyone post on their main character

When people post on a level 80 it’s usually their main.

Not every one hides their main.

[Dragnius-stormrage]

@Snozay-area-52

That’s fine if people prefer delves. The issue is delves reward too high of a reward for the difficulty.

Then up the difficulty.
It goes up to 11, but they don’t increase the rewards so EVERYONE just stays at T8, there are those of us who want delves to be a challenge as well as progression, but Blizzard being Blizzard is just goofing around it seems.

[Canopia-duskwood (Canopia)]

what are you blathering about? Level 7 and below delves are already worthless, and if it isnt bountiful, its even more worthless. they just gave M+ the same treatment I guess. the only reason to do a Lv 1-7 delve at this moment in time is simply to waste keys if you have too many in order to level Brann. You get zero actual tangible rewards from them except a stronger Brann and an achievement or two.

[Althalas-kaelthas]

It they nerf the vault to Hero 1 but buff runed crest acquisition, it would probably be alright. Delve players would be able to gear up at around the same speed while reducing the whining from the m+ people.

If they nerf the rewards but leave the crests as is, they’ll have abandoned the idea that this is a game mode intended for casual players.

[Tiresias-moon-guard (Tiresias)]

This whole thread is about how devs are saying that people are not doing lower tiers of M+. That they are using Delves to gear up and start at a higher level leaving the low levels struggling for people.

[Snozay-area-52]

@Dragnius-stormrage

If this is true, then what was the point? How can it be a ‘progression pillar’ if it doesn’t reward at least halfway decent gear? Why have 11 difficulties if you aren’t even going to lean into the challenge aspect?

Because it’s not even challenging.

Tier 8 delves are not hard enough to award hero track.

[Virus-nagrand (Virus)]

@Grizzle-eredar

M+ got nerfed going into TWW and M+ are still doing M+

I don’t do M+ anymore, but from what i understand, the rewards are still very good, but they are just harder and participation is way down compared to last expansion, is that not the case?

If Delves got tuned harder but the gear was still good, i’d happily keep smashing 11’s to get my gear, but if they nerf the reward to appease certain elements within the M+ community, what’s the point of even having Delves as an entirely new pillar? Over-reward them to stimulate participation, then gut them for the next season and they turn into dead content?

That would be madness.

[Nazarion-silvermoon]

As dumb as that idea would be I could see them doing it.

I only do delves at this point to fill my vault up. If they nerf that I would just stop running delves completely. It would basically make their new xpac feature worthless pretty soon after hitting 80.

Really dumb idea, but I’ve seen Blizz follow through on some real head scratchers in the past so who knows.

[Snozay-area-52]

@Tiresias-moon-guard

This whole thread is about how devs are saying that people are not doing lower tiers of M+. That they are using Delves to gear up and start at a higher level leaving the low levels struggling for people.

Because delves are by far easier to do up to hero track.

Delves at 8 have zero difficulty compared to mplus at a +8

[Mythosaur-frostwolf]

i would not mind the delve lvl rewards to increase
doing an 8 give 606 and vault 616 but tier 9 should be 608 and vault 618 or somewhat

[Dragnius-stormrage]

@Snozay-area-52

Because it’s not even challenging.

Tier 8 delves are not hard enough to award hero track.

Refer to my other post.

Up the difficulty. Pretty simple. There is already 3 additional difficulties in the delve tree but they cap the rewards at T8 so that’s where people stay.

[Tek-grizzly-hills]

well remove it from vault slots at that point…

its already pretty useless as is by now.

[Calyugar-thunderhorn]

I would think M+ players would be happy with keeping players like me out of M+…guess you cannot please them. (I am not a very good player…if you cannot figure that out by this comment)

[Snozay-area-52]

@Dragnius-stormrage

Then up the difficulty.
It goes up to 11, but they don’t increase the rewards so EVERYONE just stays at T8, there are those of us who want delves to be a challenge as well as progression, but Blizzard being Blizzard is just goofing around it seems.

The amount of crying if they made t8 delves equal to mplus 8s would be paramount.

Even 11s aren’t hard enough to justify hero track in all reality.

[Cur-proudmoore (Cur)]

Or they could make delvs harder.

[Fauxstrasza-stormrage]

@Badhabît-kelthuzad

*What’s the stated problem? M+7 and below aren’t worth doing? *

*What’s the solution? Make M+7 and below worth doing? *

How?

Make doing M+7 and below “worth it?” Absolutely NOT.

You realize if they buff m+ 7 below rewards to mythic, rename mythic to Divine, it’s the same thing? Loot doesn’t exist in a vacuum.

[Grizzle-eredar]

@Tiresias-moon-guard

This whole thread is about how devs are saying that people are not doing lower tiers of M+.

Doesn’t answer the question i asked about why people who only do delves, who can continue to only do delves, who even with reduced rewards will still have better rewards for a solo path than they have in the past, would quit over this?

@Virus-nagrand

I don’t do M+ anymore, but from what i understand, the rewards are still very good, but they are just harder and participation is way down compared to last expansion, is that not the case?

That is the case. Sounds like it will be the same case with Delves. So why the sudden hissyfit?

@Virus-nagrand

what’s the point of even having Delves as an entirely new pillar?

Still going to be a solo-progression with insanely good gear in relation to its difficulty?