We have human druids. Just because they’re from Kul Tiras and not Elwynn doesn’t make them any less human. They’re as smelly and ignorant as all the rest. Or is it because they’re fat? Are you fat shaming druids? How does that work? I never saw a skinny bear before.
Are you just tossing An’she infront of a class combo to try to justify it?
You know what An’she is right? It’s the sun, the symbolic life/light diety of the Tauren religion.
now explain to me how in the world you get “An’she mages” when arcane magic has literally nothing to do with any of that?
And I couther that the reason they are not playable, is because they aren’t considered proper classes that would actually be trained, and are generally seen as outsiders and not looked at well.
I still do not see Goblin monks ever being a thing… the initial justification for them not being monks is plenty legit.
If everything can be everything, then lore doesn’t matter and nothing matters at all. There needs to be restrictions for the allowances to matter.
it’s all about lore accurate cultural restrictions until someone wants to let Jaina die in Torghast or execute Sylvanas while she’s stuck asleep because of their races attitude towards those characters. Funny how when it really matters in the lore it is forced to not matter.
An’she is the sun, fire magics. Cosmic forces are represented by arcane. The sun is a star= druid magic is all star/cosmic stuff. That is arcane. The moon represents tidal forces and is also used for water magics which is represented by frost magics.
They already use these magics in shamanism too but yet can’t choose to specify in an element like mages can for whatever reason? - Arbitrary restriction.
The tauren already have druidism in which they use nature/fire magic via solar wrath, and star magic. The raw fire and frost magics aren’t available to tauren… yet they are for classes like Vulpera why exactly? Even kul tirans have it and they are witch-phobic, yet they too got druids and mages. It’s just inconsistancy and arbitrary limitations.
No, mages can just do that. Self polymorph.
Well at least wielders of Atiesh can, because khadgar does it as well.
It’s not inconsistant, it’s just not seen that way to the Tauren. They don’t see the sun as fire (Because to be frank they probably don’t know it’s a giant gas ball in the middle of space that’s on fire, they just see the light and warmth)
ARcane magic has always been heavily frowned upon by Tauren… There has been many comments that they don’t like the smell of the magic, as to them it’s too close to Fel.
You might personally ooc know the sun is a burning gas ball, but I don’t think the dreanai ever got around to explaining what a sun technically is (Nor if they actually work that way in the wow setting, in some D&D settings the sun is literally the plane of positive energy, which wouldn’t work the same way it does IRL).
Druidic magic is actually far more aligned with Nature than it being star magic. The only specc that has astral stuff is the boomkin, which is just one branch of specialized druidism, but is very unlike all the rest (None of the other specilizations have an astral theme at all)
Shamanism isn’t Arcane magic. There is a difference. It’s spiritual magic from actual spirits and the elemental spirits of the four elements. It’s specifically those four elementals because your borrowing power from those elements. It’s not the same as a mage’s fireball spell, and it doesn’t constituted being adjacent to arcane magic just because mages also use fire and ice spells. The magic source is not the same, at all.
None of your assertions are accurate in this regard.
They also the descendents of Yaungol who heavy use fire magics and worship a fire god - ordos. So to say they lost mastery over fire magics is a little silly, the only fire magics they have access too is via shamanism. But like I could easily see them being a fire specialized shaman for example and that being a fire mage, or a frost specialized shaman and that being a frost mage. They already use heavy arcane magics via druidism. Heck had like the first druids being taught stuff like arcane magics- which is linked to titan planes of magic.
That cultural rejection of arcane is recent stuff. The tauren finding out there gods are the first ones and they tend to order things like the titans that taboo of arcane goes flying out the window. Which is another reason to lift many race/class combos, the common azerothian finding out more about the world, more willing to learn new magics, new perspectives etc.
Hoping the Zereth animals will be used for bio-mechanicla druid forms for races like gnomes and goblins myself! Would be cool. Mini-versions of the forms would be cool too.
If the Yaungols hadn’t all but completely disappeared with the loss of Ordos I’d say you might have somewhat of a point. But as far as I can tell they are basically (If not completely) wiped out by the Combined alliance and horde efforts, and any remnants were scattered upon the winds with Ordos’s death.
However, them being attuned to fire doesn’t mean they were mages, nor that their magic was arcane in nature.
Again… a shaman can specialize in an element. And even if that element is fire, that doesn’t make them a fire mage. Their source of magic is not the same.
Mages use arcane energy to conjure fire balls and ice bolts and raw arcane attacks.
Shamans borrow their powers from the elements through an innate contract between themselves and the elements, and an understanding of what fire is… they don’t conjure it like a mage does. THey aren’t the same, so you cannot equate the two.
And no the arcane taboo isn’t a recent thing, the Tauren are not a titan creation. They are not titan constructs afflicted with the curse of flesh, they are literally natural creatures of Azeroth.
The tauren descent from Yaungol, Xal’atath also mentions it is curious tauren like the feltotem fell to corruption.
Xal’atath whispers: The tauren here are remarkably resilient to corruption, considering their origins.
Kanrethad Ebonlocke says: I tire of your evasive babble, doomguard. Explain to me why you and your kind are drawn to sacrificial magics.
Doomguard says: My contract is to fight for you, not to reveal the legion’s secrets, mortal.
Kanrethad Ebonlocke yells: Do not attempt to deceive me, demon!
Kanrethad Ebonlocke yells: Your kind far predates Sargeras’s betrayal. What WERE you?
Jubeka Shadowbreaker says: This knowledge is useless… what are you trying to achieve, Kanrethad?
Kanrethad Ebonlocke yells: STAY OUT OF THIS! The demon will answer, NOW!
Doomguard says: What an odd demand. Not even my own kind care about our origins. Why should you?
Kanrethad Ebonlocke says: If you do not care then there is no harm telling me.
Doomguard says: …before Sargeras freed us, we were the Titan’s hounds. Forever enslaved to police the use of arcane magics.
Doomguard says: Sacrificial magic was considered the greatest violation of life
There is also a theory that says doomguards and tauren/yaungol are related. Next patch we find out the first ones made everything, so perhaps tauren were created by old ones in another plane of nature such as the emerald dream/ zereth vita.
But as is we see some tauren tribes deviate and have possibilities in game now. However much they deviated from there natural plan. Tauren lore says the earthmother made them which implies Azeroth or some sort of life god in the nature plane.
I mentioned fire mages specifically because Yaungols have them in there culture heavily. It can be an implied connection to An’she. Perhaps An’she and ordos are related. Ordos himself was a shaman who sacrificed his life to fire lords/ fire elementals. Ingame I don’t see tauren fire mages as a sort of fire specialized shaman imo.
if Calia can be an undead made by the light, then I can say one day, undead can be paladins.
Why are all Kul Tiran heavy set? The NPCs aren’t all big boned.
Bruv, there are fel Tauren outside of TOS. Dudes. Surely one could have had second thoughts and joined Illidan.
I would like to see them add skinny humans as Drust that would use death magic druidism with wicker construct forms instead of thornspeaker
It’s a great thing GD isn’t in charge of development, yikes, Gnome Druids? lol
From what I’m gathering is because it is a majority of the race knows this class.
It’s like complaining why people who are Christian aren’t learning Voodoo teachings.
That is sexy as hell
Given Illidans hatred for the legion. I doubt he would ever let anyone associated with them get close enough for a conversation.
I honestly don’t see the issue any more. When the game was new, it made more sense to have class restrictions. But now, everyone is so well known and travelled, they certainly will have shared knowledge too. It’s not that big a deal anymore. All the races are intelligent bipedal species. Let them train in whatever class they want. Hell, it might make for some interesting travelling quests, even.