Soo….human druid

I saw a streamer with a mod that made his paladin an undead, and I have never wanted anything more from WoW than that. It was so freaking awesome looking and the lore and backstory fantasy of a toon like that is an altoholic’s dream.

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Those tropes are the shady the bunch and are the way to add them in. You can choose to rp your tauren the good way or the bad way already. You can rp your shaman as a dark shaman for example. Those different sides of society let you choose how your character identifies. I don’t think it’s nice to say only races can do certain anti-hero tropes.

You’re welcome to your opinion, but without any drastic overhauls on Tauren society, and I cannot think of any that actually make sense without shoehorning it in, Tauren ROgues warlocks and demon hunters are three classes that just shouldn’t exist as playable classes.

To be frank, I don’t really care what NPCs do. NPCs often do not follow lore or any semblance of normal gameplay.

NPCs are not a good reason to try to say a race should get a specific class.

Classes are trained, and the society would havve to be willing to train the individuals to be able to make them a class. Tauren society doesn’t support these classes. It makes zero sense for htem to exist.

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I vote for Gnome Druid but only if their cat form can be an ocelot…

both are tied to the harvest witches if i am not mistaken thus they can be druids where as regular humans have no ties with them thus they cannot be.

even trolls by lore have ties with nature via the Loa’s. it can possibly be teached to humans lore wise but idk if it would even make any sense since they are kinda tied to the light more. same can be said with taurens except they originally worshiped the sun god correct? which is pretty much tied to elune or is elune ( don’t remember if it’s the same thing or 2 different gods )

NPCs are the exception. That is what makes them unique and NPCs.

Yes they are trained by anti-hero npcs. Like orc warlocks weren’t openly taught that stuff. It’s a minor origins tweak for some classes that they already do for some race/class combos already. Like goblin deathknights are just goblins from a different cartel. That’s all. An outlaw is within any society a criminal, that’s what outlaw rogues are antihero classes.

Just because you like playing characters on the good side doesn’t mean other players don’t want the same race heroes as anti-hero choices.

A tauren rogue npc trainer could very well be a grimtotem rogue teaching there philosophies to the thunderbluff tauren for example. The same way dwarf warlock npcs have been dark iron since cata.

Highmountain warlocks would be taught by feltotem that wanted to rejoin the horde after the Legion’s fall. Highmountain mages would be rivermane tribe folks that like frost magic/water elementals. Both Tauren Mages probably would like Fire and arcane mages for Mu’sha and An’she cosmic forces that represent sun and moon.
Highmountain paladins/priests would be tauren that rediscover An’she through there thunderbluff alies. Tauren warlocks could be taught by fellow horde allies, or a Yaungol destruction warlock that learned demon magics after the Legion attacked Pandaria.

So many stories our characters can go with as an origin point, we are still heroes at the end of the story, our origins shouldn’t matter so much as to be limited by what we play.

I’m sorry I just don’t agree.

Tauren culture should not in any way promote Rogues warlocks or anything of those likes.

The culture itself is just not the same as other races. Tauren’s temperments are also generally not in line with these, outside of NPCs, which honestly do not count, because NPCs are not class restricted like player characters are.

It’s not that I just want to play the hero, it’s that it doesn’t fit in Tauren society. Period.

If you want to play a warlock go play one of the half dozen other races that can be warlocks. Tauren by lore will not have Warlocks. And it would take massive shifts and pulling alot of BS out of blizzards back ends to change that.

Same with rogues, a 9-14 feet tall Minotaur that can weight up to nearly 2 tons is -not- a stealthy creature, outside of shapeshifting, which is what druids do.

Tauren rogues are memes for a reason.


Tauren be pirates mateys.

Grimtotems be rogues, assasination and outlaw fit them good and the blood totem.

Just because you don’t agree with it doesn’t make them any less part of the game.

A pirate hat doesn’t make you a rogue, you can wear a pirate hat and make yourself a warrior or mage even. Hell there are pirate priests. :roll_eyes:

Grimtotems are not rogues, they are NPCs with generic NPC abilities tossed at them.

NPCs are not class restricted like Player Characters, they are not good examples or excuses to add entire classes to a race.

The Grimtotem tribe [2] (also known as the Grimtotem clan,[3][4][5] or simply the Grimtotem tauren [6][7]) is one of the mightiest tauren tribes. They stand as an aggressive extreme of the usually pacifistic tauren, wishing to eradicate the “lesser races” from Kalimdor and retake the tauren’s long lost ancestral holdings.[8] The Grimtotem tribe fights to eliminate the enemies of the tauren; to the Grimtotem, almost all races are enemies of the tauren.[9] They are known for unprovoked attacks, slaughter and mayhem, in great contrast to the peaceful, spiritual nature of the other tauren clans.

From early childhood, while other tauren their age learn the rites of the Great Hunt and to be in harmony with nature, the Grimtotem are taught how to fight each other. They learn to kill quickly and cleanly with hands, horns, and whatever weapon they can get their hands on. In any given conflict, the odds are with a Grimtotem to emerge victorious. They do not fight honorably; they fight to win.[2]

The Grimtotem are currently split into two main camps: those led by the powerful shaman Magatha Grimtotem, who gained leadership after marrying the previous leader, who had died shortly after in an “unforeseen climbing accident”; and those led by Jevan Grimtotem, who are loyal to the Horde and renounced Magatha after the part she played in Cairne Bloodhoof’s death. Jevan’s Horde Grimtotem are about a quarter of the pre-split Grimtotem population.[2]

Instead of learning to respect the land and elements, the Grimtotem do nothing but take land, power, and lives. They are skilled and relentless, and believe that no others have a right to be here, even the tauren who disagree with them. -endquote

Grimtotem embody the philosphy of rogues and would be the clan that dabbles in other darker magics. Some are still in the horde. It is a darker side of Tauren that already exists.

You mean the ones that were cast out? Because they sided with Magatha? And have been put to the sword all across the continent of kalimdor?

And the small fraction that stayed loyal to Baine instead of magatha are quite literally the ones that helped cast their own brethren out for being terrible?

We’ve been over this at least three times now. :roll_eyes:

There is nothing in Tauren lore that supports rogues warlocks ect. that actually supports them in a meaningful way.

Feltotem do not support it
Taunka do no support it
Yaungols do not support it
Grimtotem do not support it.

You’re clinging onto wisps of dead factions trying to justify something that simply is not justifiable.

They aren’t dead, nothing you have said is canon? For example we faced aggressive Taunka tribes in island expeditions.

Anyways it is up to blizzard to add them in, they just have to add a desire for it. There writers can make it work if they want. I think there is enough lore already to make simple explanations, I have wanted tauren rogues since forever, moreso grimtotem rogues with warpaints, or highmountain rogues with the Legion crafted leather set.

They have some nice aestheics and can work. Such as this bloodtotem assasination rogue mog.

Here’s a nice bloodtotem/feltotem highmountain warlock that would be nice to have ingame.

I have done many Island expeditions and have not once run into Taunka on the islands. I’m skeptical on that claim.

As I said you are welcome to your own opinions. I just am stating that Tauren culture does not mesh with these classes, and these classes would be beyond being pariahs, they’d be vehemently cast out and treated as outcasts.

As the lore stands right now, there is not a way to intigrate Warlocks or rogues into the tauren race.

Nor should Blizzard twist and shoehorn in anything into the lore of the race to justify a few meme classes.

If you want to play a warlock go play one of the races that has warlocks available.

If you want to play a rogue, go play a race that allows rogues.

People always complain that blizzard’s lore and world is all filled with crappy storytelling and shoe-horned plot convivences, but then turn around and want to butcher the already established lore more for the sake of their own conveniences.

I made this with grimtotem rogue stuff mixed in with what tauren already have…
Grimtotem, some of them are already in the horde. If we had those options it would be so cool to play an outlaw tauren/ mercenary/ leather berzerker, etc.

I don’t think letting us play classes that the darker tribes of tauren would play is a bad thing or bad lore. It’s just another way for us to express ourselves in the game. You prefer the nice tropes, but tauren have more tropes then that in there various tribes.

I don’t “Prefer” nicer tropes, if I wanted a darker trope, I’d go play a race that has darker tropes. Not demand people change in-game lore for me to play whatever I want.

I’d prefer people stop wanting to butcher already established Tauren lore (Which we barely get enough as is) to fuel their stupid meme class ideas.

Also you can stop linking dressing room links I’m not going to look at them. I don’t care.

I mean you are being a bit prejudiced saying any tauren wouldn’t do that stuff or play the antihero tropes. I do play other classes for that already but I express stuff I want or have wanted to play. I could not be a tauren rogue for so long so I had to settle for blood elf. I could not be a grimtotem warlock so I went troll in cataclysm when they offered that combo.

I could not go troll pally when I started so I had to be a blood elf paladin until we got zandalari trolls.

The lore is already there, just needs story updating/progression.

Also you dont have to look at the links, just for anyone who wants to see the cool potential of how they would look ingame. Hope the deva remove/race class reatrictions to fuel player expression.

Blizzard missed the best opportunity of all time by not implementing transforming Mechagnome druids.

It just… Could have been so awesome.

Ah well. Here’s hoping they remember to have fun again someday in the future.

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I just ismply idsagree.

If it’s out of character for a race to tolerate dark magics or underhanded behaviors, then purposely shoehorning in some backwards lore reason to justify it for the players who just want to play meme classes on meme races does nothing but water down what little lore we actually have left.

Tauren lore doesn’t need “updating” to allow for Rogues or Warlocks, just pick a different race.

There are plenty of other ways for you to play rogues or warlocks (As you even stated) there is no reason to butcher what little lore Tauren have.

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Many combos need updating. Dranei -rangari rogues, tauren an’she mages, grimtotem rogues, wildhammer druids, goblin monks (honestly had enough exposure to pandaren culture to be able to learn it by now), we even had stuff like shaman worgen in island expeditions, night elf paladins in legion, feltotem/blood totem warlocks, an’she highmountain priests/paladins, Jedan Monk Lightforged, orc shadow priests, nightborne/blood elf botanists class skins for druids.

Plenty of stuff they could do. I don’t think they are meme classes, just another part of the race’s culture that’s not playable yet.