I can’t agree with you, I’m really enjoying this expansion, since BfA I don’t feel like playing WoW, SL was a fiasco for me… and DF I thought was ok, but it didn’t hook me at all, but TWW is magnificent, the delves are great, the WQ, the farms you have to do, not being massive and rewarding you, I really liked the scenario and the weekly rewards system, and the talents of the heroes gave something that was missing in wow, a unique characteristic for the classes, well the question of your game being “slow or bad ping”, is something specifically with you, because with me it’s smooth, I don’t feel any slowness in combat, it flows like water.
Additionally, people who have everything catered to them become hostile and unhappy.
The expansions are just too formulaic. Even the world building feels really formulaic in a lot of areas of TWW. I feel like the game just feels like a generic fantasy game these days.
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i agree with almost all of what the op said.
heres the sad truth though, blizzard doesnt care what you or i or anyone else thinks.
the only way we can actually communicate with blizzard is through our wallet. that was proven with shadowlands and how their stock tanked and then they were somehow magically able to make good changes, although too late.
if we dont like the way things are going the most effective way to give feedback is to unsub and stop giving them money until they make good changes. that is the best message to send.
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Yeah, I can see that, the current story, meaning Shadowlands onwards saga feels kinda… Sanitized? I can’t quite explain it, but it’s so in your face, it hardly ever has twists or tries to subvert your expecations, everything happens as you expect it to, not to mention that the ultra fast pacing that is only really “regulated” by time-gating early in the expansion or through major patches doesn’t help the story one bit.
And the gameplay too, Raiding is fun during Prog, but for most guilds, that’s a 2 or 3 days a week afair, after you get into farming, it becomes boring real fast, if you don’t push Mythic, which most guilds only really farm the first few easy bosses, instead of a full prog.
M+ doesn’t necessarily have universal appeal and the gear treadmill can get diminishing returns real fast, if you are not in for the challenge, it can be a really repetitive form of gameplay, downright stressful sometimes.
And now Delves, that are somewhat fun, but super limited, once you are mostly Heroic geared, they don’t really provide a challenge outside of Tier 11, they have a much worse version of diminishing returns on gear that M+ has and you can only really run it like 5-6 times a week, which makes them closer to Raiding style gearing than M+.
But with all that said, the biggest issue with WoW is that it turns into a “lobby game” super fast. WQs is just fly to point A → do trivial objective that lasts 5 mins → fly to point B → repeat. Loremaster you can do in a week. Alts, achievements, treasure hunts, mount and tmog farming, etc, is super niche, but it’s just how the game is, it’s what people enjoy about it, I just think it’s not doing it for me, and think it’s precisely because I don’t really enjoy the story anymore, I can tolerate somewhat unenjoyable gameplay if I have the “what will happen on the next chapter” carrot, like it was for me in Legion and even BFA funnily enough, but this feeling just doesn’t exist for me anymore.
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Absolutely not. Not even remotely close to being true.
I’m going to agree fully on the Blizzard communication issue, and “somewhat” agree on the delve tuning. But strong disagree on everything else. This is the best WOW has been in awhile. Bugs and terrible communication aside.
This is my main beef with the game as well. You can thank the Diablo developers they brought onto the team in Legion for this shift.
Another big issue for the game, is the base difficulty is just a joke. Leveling content is a joke, goes super fast and provides zero challenge.
I don’t know why they keep making this massive zones only for them to get abandon by the players super fast. Slapping a bunch of boring dailies into the zones doesn’t really help either.
Bottom line, the game is just too fixated on the end game gear treadmill. That is why their sales have been flat, I think more and more people are drifting off to other games that have more immersive worlds.
I used to stay subbed for entire expansions, but now they are lucky to get 2-3 months out of me. I just find the entire end game gear treadmill utterly boring in this game.
I think a lot of players feel this way, because the bar has been set so low these days for Blizzard.
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I don’t like M+, so cannot comment on that part of the game.
I will agree the game is buggier and the many glitches are detracting from a lackluster game.
I have encountered that delay bug in combat, both with my bear and more with my aff lock.
WQ are definitely problematic. As someone who has focused on this completely for years, they do seem to be designed by someone who is utterly clueless that this is an MMO, I’m reminded of a few impossible Korthia quests until they fixed the ‘many people doing this quest at the same time’ issue.
There is definitely enough to do if one likes busywork, but it’s borderline entertaining for me. I rather like Delves and hope they don’t break them into something Torghast like, which was a great idea implemented horribly.
Being a pessimist, I’m not even looking forward to the anniversary event, which sounds ‘meh’ from what I’ve been reading, at least to me, but I hope I’m wrong.
I really do hope they fix things, but I’m concerned they either don’t have the resources to do so in time.
I don’t do the final boss til my guild reaches it. They are quite a bit more casual than me.
also god damn those lizard emotes are so ugly lol
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One zone looks like Zerith Mortis 2.0.
While the other 3 are variations of Zaralek Caverns, that I hate to set foot in.
Something is wrong alright… We are going to be spending the next 3 years in Azeroth’s colon.
I hate these devs with a passion. I wish Elon would have bought this company instead of Microsoft.
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Microsoft didn’t have any influence on this expansion.
Blizzard just doesn’t have the talent it used to have, plus it is obvious that they didn’t have a vision for the expansions post Metzen. The game since SL has just felt off. BFA had its problems, but I still felt like I was playing WoW. SL is when things got kind of weird, the art style, the story and the overall feel for the game.
TWW has elements of WoW in it, but overall it feels like a generic fantasy game.
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This only applies if the sentiment is widespread enough. It’s easy to find likeminded pockets (echo chambers) that make things feel like general sentiment, but that’s almost never the case.
70-80% of the player base does not frequent forums. Does not care about min/maxxing or niche “feel-bad-factors” about their class.
I don’t have polling data, but I’d wager most players enjoy the expansion overall.
To give an example from a personal experience, take M+ for example.
I’ve seen people love it, people hate it. I personally think it’s amazing. I’ve no idea what the massive gripe is with this season. They’re appropriately challenging, the mechanics are new, and they feel rewarding to time.
I don’t think the +7 affix is the “worst thing they’ve ever added,” which seems like a scolding hot take if you go off of reddit and the wow forums.
But then again, different strokes and all that.
I know that. I was just wishing Elon would have purchased the company.
In less than a month we’ll be doing all of the 20th anniversary stuff. When that ends it’ll be about time for S2 and a major patch.
Why? So he can rebrand it and run it into the ground like Twitter? That company is losing revenue and users since Musk took over.
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True, true.
The current problem with TWW is that it is just an extension of DF but with more bugs!
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Hate to break it to you but they had trouble running the game when it was at its simplest. WoW’s history is littered with bugs and broken stuff so much so that people on youtube have made a living talking about it.
No, not even close. The customer is more often then not wrong. And its arrogant to think ones opinion is infalible.
If you were to have 10 customers, 5 of them say X is awesome while the other 5 say that X is horrible. Which of the 10 customers would you deem to be right?
Every single aspect of tww has polish problems. Maybe raid and pvp (people how does, please answer) are the most polished content of the game.
From everything that was said, we have professions that was nerfed (tailor drop rate, enchanting count and quality, hermorism plants, etc) and of course the most serious problem that was the guild bank wipeout. This is the cherry of the cake.
ps: still on profession we have craft orders completly blank when you try to do (some special cloth armors, but should be true for other professions too)
I was leveling in the barrens last night on my monk. There’s still broken quests from Cata.
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