I feel like Stormrage and some of the other MEGA servers need to be broken into shards and have the players separated by an unassuming invisible wall. You still keep the server name, but now there are 5 copies of Stormrage tied into one with 5 times the proc power, and less lag trying to keep nearly 30k active accounts from crashing a single box.
The War Within is a shameful extension of the braindead development this game has had since BFA. Legion was the last truly enjoyable expansion. Although you could find some fun in BFA, Shadowlands and Dragonflight, they felt objectively worse than the expansions of yesteryear. I had no reason to believe TWW would be particularly good, but I thought it might be better. Itâs not.
The game has felt like a themepark for a long time and it still does. Class identity has arguably never felt worse (and what a huge missed opportunity to double down on that with hero talents), class balance feels absolutely awful (try tanking on a Brewmaster versus something not terrible), there are so many CHORES (have to do my awakening the machine, get my wax globs, get my sparks of war, do my dungeon weekly, do the weekly quest, get my four bountiful delves done, do my profession quests / treastises⌠Jesus christ.
The raid is fun and well designed. I dig the new solo-queue rated battleground. I think SOME of the Hero talents are fun and add a lot to the game. The War Within doesnât miss on all fronts - there are some inspired decisions here. Hell, Hallowfall is just downright the most beautiful zone Blizzard has EVER made.
But the failures are suffocating.
- We desperately need better class balance, itâs not even funny.
- Half of the gameâs Hero Talents are garbage, maybe more
- This gearing treadmill of your most likely upgrades being vault mythic-track RNG and crafted gear feels TERRIBLE. Iâve never felt this timegated on gear progress before.
- Mythic Dungeons seem disproportionately difficult this expansion. Iâve never struggled in +9 dungeons before. By way of your Mythic+ crunch youâve scared off 75% of the playerbase from even PuGGing at all.
- This new crafting system / crafting order thing is awful. Was nearly universally panned in DF and you brought it into TWW. Why? Do you know how many friends I had to handhold through crafting the i590 gear the first week of the expansion? Itâs not exactly obvious between crests, enchanted crests, missives, star-tiers, concentration yadaa yadaa. Why are you so stuck on this?
- Particularly forgettable storyline with a boss-girl Disney villain, some tokenized new faces, and a stark lack of Horde contribution.
Hereâs my WoW expansion rating list for the 0.5 people that care:
Vanilla WoW - 8/10
The Burning Crusade - 10/10
Wrath of the Lich King - 8/10
Cataclysm - 5/10
Mists of Pandaria - 8/10
Warlords of Draenor - 2/10
Legion - 9/10
Battle for Azeroth - 4/10
Shadowlands - 1/10
Dragonflight - 4/10
The War Within - 3/10
There have been essentially eleven eras of World of Warcraft, and all four of the past expansions have been in my bottom five. I wouldnât even be terribly surprised in subscriber / engagement numbers more or less reflected my rankings.
There is something DEEPLY wrong with modern WoW development. Something happened after Legion. Were there layoffs? Did everyone quit? Did Activision step in to take a stronger direction over development? The War Within does feel like a sour, cynical themepark, but so did Shadowlands and Dragonflight. TWW isnât uniquely bad. Itâs just more of the same.
In before âWhy do you keep buying them?â - because I make nearly $200,000 a year with no kids and $50 to blast through some fresh content with my friends for a few weeks is acceptable, even if it ends up being garbage once the dust clears.
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Poor you. It might be only happening to you. Never happened to me. Never seen such bug reported in the forums.
If itâs only you, who cares? Most likely is you have done that quest already for the week.
People disrespected Dungeons on the first few weeks in Normal and Heroic. Pulling everything⌠on every run. Blizz saw these. These guys are tough guys.
Now you see the results. Now, pls pull all the mobs again on Mythic+. Where are those tough guys? Now Crying? ROFL.
I like how Blizz humiliated those tough guys. Very entertaining.
Hey, if you are tough, show us youre Tough. Stop whining and beat Mythic+.
Iâm there with you. TWW is off. You canât get into heroics with normal dungeon gear like past expansions. Meaning they added another gear gate to restrict gear growth thus slowing down raiders.
Every expansion just feels like the game is growing in reverse. Tww just feels like something is wrong. I really miss the old days. I believe WoW truely has died it wonât be much longer till even the diehards will leave.
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I agree with you 100%
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or hear me outâŚmove off the server.
There would unironically be button bloat if the Hero Talents were active talents. Hero Talents were a long overdue bone thrown to the community that enjoys and cares about class fantasy.
That said this expansion does seem awfully lackluster after being billed as a return to form. Dragonflight failed the vibe check thoroughly and suffered from questionable writing, but War Within doesnât inspire. The art is muted and softer, the story is almost mournful. And for all its good writing, AzjâKhahet is still a Revendreth-lite.
wqs and open world need help.
i like being in the open with others. revert wq changes and have more events pleaseâŚ
i kinda wish delves were like that, like open world stuff like in classic where u go in caves for stuff.
hero talents i donât have much say but i did
oracle, archon, suns and lightsmith and theyâre all bad. im also salty dks get to ride a horse for time but palls canât⌠like you missed a huge chance for us to have a calvary talent (i rather a spec but i digress) oracle is confusing and itâs not fun stackingand waiting to press a button, archon press halo on cd thatâs it, gz you got top heals from this op abilityâŚ
suns is just boring and lightsmith i want it to be good but it feels clunky
delves good, could be better and im sure it will be
professions need A MASSIVE OVERHAUL or please revert the changes pls man.
overall its better than df, i give this a 5/ 10
df was about a 3 and sl was 0. weâre getting somewhere but needs more
Iâll be back to TWW as soon as I am done doing what I am wanting to do in SoD.
this one is not true. Blizzard lies all the time.
3 weeks ago both the lead producer and production director were interviewed at Gamescon saying they do not do significant class changes or reworks mid season.
There are about 8 or 9 specs that are being reworked in November.
Paly was reworked and OP mid-season in DF.
Aug spec was dropped mid-season 2 DF.
So there is communication, bite your tongue.
Ita bad most of tww maps are just copied and pasted from DF the main are is a copy of ohain plains df. The other maps follow that to blizz is just phoning it in
So the problem with WoW and its player base is that they suffer from the same thing the NBA 2k players, Madden players, Call of duty players, etc. Addiction. No matter how bad the product is people are still gonna buy it and try and convince people its good. Its average at best, TWW that is. Just like DF average. The glory days of WoW, the MOPs, Legions, WOTLK, BC are dead and gone. Theyâll never revert back unforuntately.
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This is obviously a subjective topic, but the only thing I could see that Iâve also noticed was the hero talents, but it depends on the class.
I like the delves and world quests. I canât really talk about the communication as much.
I would like for them to finally give me back my BFA reps that reset for some reason though.
Yes. Specifically my two biggest cool downs. Already made a ticket and got the usual do these steps to fix problem, but it continues.
Either itâs highly localized internet problem or related to some very specific hardware/software component that very few people have. Iâm still trying to figure out what causes it.
Itâs on retail 100% and has not affected in the least my classic gaming. Itâs not an addon. Could be a poorly optimized GPU or driver.
One thing for certain is that it immediately appeared on TWW pre patch. Doing quests at the Dalaran portal destinations. 
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lol wild.
I work in a customer service heavy job and can attest that when a customer says something is wrong, they are frequently wrong.
You got the second part correct though.
The devs that worked on those versions are long gone.
Mythic+ has been ruined, itâs the worst itâs ever been imo
the new raid is a joke in difficulty unless you do mythic
PVP is pretty fun, and iâm enjoying delves.
Overall itâs worse than dragonflight season 1 but meh, iâm having some fun
You are 7/8 on heroic?
I sort of agree, though I think itâs mostly a me problem⌠I am not really feeling the xpac. Itâs decent, but you know, itâs just another WoW expac, it doesnât feel like itâs enough to break my âPlay for a month or two â Quit for half a year or more â come back, play for another month â Quit until next xpacâ curse Iâve been having since Shadowlands.
I donât know, unless Midnight sounds crazy good, which I donât really think it will, I think I might be reaching the point of not really enjoying WoW and should just let it go, Iâm simply not vibing with the game anymore, the story isnât hooking me and the gameplay loses itâs luster fairly quickly.
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