Well, yes. The upper management didn’t want to get into trouble so they tried to cover up what they were doing. So who are you blaming for this? The company? The upper management who were doing the bad things? the employees?
What Blizzard is doing now is akin to a pizza party. It doesn’t mean anything, doesn’t really help anyone, and is largely an insult to the employees.
We as customers have every right to stop paying, and many already have. Blizzard has a responsibility to their customers to provide a good product, just as they have a responsibility to their employees to protect them and ensure they’re taken care of.
Blizzard very clearly failed us both.
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I think they will remove all violence from D4, and the game will be about friendship and puppies and finding a peaceful resolution to problems so there is never a need to pick up a weapon. And the ending cinematic will be a big group hug.
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So you are comparing developers to front line customer representatives? That would explain why you are thinking this but it isn’t an honest comparison.
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And now that they were caught, not everyone is being punished, and the shareholders have shown they still only care about profit.
Given how widespread the reports say the abuse was (not just the sexual assault, but the wage theft and worker abuse), I’d expect Blizzard to need a complete restructuring.
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Remember when Mortal Kombat had a cheat code for blood.
Toggle would be great. Snowflake mode vs. regular
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You can play semantics all day, but we both know what I’m trying to say.
Blizzard = Company
Developers = Employees
Subscribers/Players = Customers
Customers > Company/Employees
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They should have made the following announcement and changed nothing…If you are offended by game design please don’t play we are sorry we can’t please everyone.
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So listening to what your employees said might be problematic is the same as a pizza party? That’s an insult to the employees? I mean it isn’t directly changing their paychecks or anything but it might be helping some. Do you know that it doesn’t help any?
You are right. You as a customer have every right to stop paying. Just like you have the right to tell people who haven’t liked this game to stop paying. It’s just that you are on the other side of the coin now and don’t like it. Blizz really needs to do better for their employees however all of this concern trolling on the forums isn’t going to change one single thing in their corporate structure. People have been trying to get Ion fired for how long and that hasn’t changed a thing so far. So how is all of this small outrage going to affect a change?
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Actually that’s an idea I think they could build on and do something with. Players could toggle ‘clean’ or ‘flirty’, and in the flirty version get all the adult humor and stuff they’ve changed and removed, plus more!
They could totally pull that off, I know they could.
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Well unless the shareholders want the change then it isn’t going to happen. Do you think they will make a huge change like that from the small outrage that’s on the forums?
It’s not semantics at all. You seem to think that the developers should do exactly what you want. That is not their job at all. They listen to what the corporate heads say they want. Has that not been made clear to you with all of the time gating and time wasting things added lately?
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They say there was a poll, but that’s all they say. We have no idea the details. We also don’t know what other options were on the table for employees. We also know that they completely disregarded the players that are the primary lifeblood of the game and the company.
Anyone happy with these changes are exactly the same as those employees that are happy they got a pizza party.
You are talking to someone playing Classic that they are now on the other side of the coin. I’ve come back to WoW a lot - some kind of loose attachment to what was once a beloved game to me - and quit repeatedly in disgust. I kept falling for the bait and believing that Blizzard could finally wake up and deliver a good product again, and every time I was let down worse and worse with a continually degrading product.
I’m not the one saying others can leave if they don’t like it. I’m someone who has left - and am only here because of Classic.
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Ok. I agree with the last part.
So you need to see the results of their internal poll to believe them? What if you disagree with that internal poll? Will you just accept that you were wrong or will you say that it wasn’t the real internal poll?
I’m saying that people have been calling for those who don’t really care about these changes and those who see these changes as a good thing to just leave “their” game. However when they disagree with a change they don’t see the need to leave the game and instead attack everyone who they disagree with. They are two sides of the same coin. It all just depends on who is the one who’s in favor of the changes.
All of these changes are really minor and throwing a fit over minor things just makes you look silly. That doesn’t change for either side.
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Oh I am not worried they will remove violence, I am worried Diablo might not be in it.
They clearly do, or else it wouldn’t be done. If these jokes being left in or removed has no impact on anyone, why waste time on them?
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That’s all I was trying to say. These changes are being made from higher up and for the benefit of the shareholders who don’t want to see another big lawsuit come down. It isn’t being made for any player on either side. To attack one side instead of the Blizz upper management is to target the wrong people.
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They said gameplay. They didn’t say anyone.
They have an affect on the social interaction part of gameplay. If you mean literally strictly just the action and fighting, well… yeah obviously it has no affect on that. No one serious about this is claiming it does.
I consider the MMO part of the game to be gameplay, though.
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