Do Normal dungeons have a continuous buff every time you wipe to a boss to ensure you succeed? No? Then it’s not an equivalent example. Attitude seems to be a personal issue you have, and not relevant to the actual comparison.
I haven’t knocked whether or not people enjoy it. That’s their prerogative, and I frankly don’t care. That has nothing to do with whether or not that content is worth rewarding.
They absolutely can wipe in the first week. But hours? Multiple hours for one wing? That’s quite the exaggeration.
“Only 10.”
Lol, only a 50% buff to health, damage, and healing. The horror of this miniscule buff to player power. I can’t imagine how a raid of 25 players with the equivalent power of 37.5 players could ever surmount these bosses.
Oh, so you know it’s not an equal comparison. Good.
Nice strawman. I never commented on that.
Another strawman? I never said it wasn’t a raiding difficulty.
I just said it was free because by design it guarantees victory, both via the actual tuning and especially because of the enormous stacking buff. And guaranteed success isn’t something worth rewarding, there’s no accomplishment to actually reward.
I’m not whining about not getting the mount. I don’t care about the mount.
What annoys me about this whole thing is Blizzard once again pulled a switcheroo for no good reason. It’s not the mount that matters to me, it’s the principal of letting players believe one thing and then saying, “Fooled Ya!” Very few people would be upset if the achieve had said “normal or higher” instead of “all” raid difficulties.
The achieve specifically says “all” difficulties. And THAT’S not on the PTR, it’s live, right now. Gee, I dunno, why would anyone be upset that they’re being told that something that’s been in the game for months is just kidding?
I like this, make it Mythic only, or everybody. Personally, I would prefer it be made Mythic only. it is not that I don’t want the mount, but having a group that has many players used to dishing it out, suddenly being on the receiving end would be a good lesson.
Regardless, IMO this entire expansion has basically been anti-casual, no matter what was “said” looks like the status quo is being maintained.
That’s because I always assumed it wouldn’t be available from LFR. If the mount is available from LFR it may as well just be a free mount mailed to you when you first log in.
At least by making normal the minimum you have to actually engage in the game to earn it.
Didn’t look at the achievements or anything. Just heard there was a cat mount from completing the raids and assumed it would only be from proper raids.
I just completed LFR jailer in the last 20mins on a newly dinged alt in 226.
2 people were just afk - sitting on the stairs.
4 people died on the pull by jumping down the holes.
Another couple people died in the first 30 seconds.
I just ran around (as a priest) auto-attacking the jailer.
Jailer died (there were 3 DPS carrying doing triple the next persons dps). I got the neckpiece. 2 of the people who jumped in the holes at the start and 1 of the afkers also got loot.
Pretty engaging gameplay hey. Free neck for staffing the boss and being a liability.
