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Make one for chaos bolt and gpyro on cast start
put in the dbm audio file : RUN AWAY LITTLE GIRL…RUN AWAY!!
Make it so your screen flashes red to in case you really are just the type of melee that runs your mount at the gate before matches start frothing with bloodshot eyes.
Que arena and thank me later you should have no more issues. Treat it like one of those PVE encounters where you gotta avoid or stop dangerous abilities.
I’ll link the one for you in case you have never PVE’d
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Are you to ignorant to understand how those 2 classes have ways to set up their big broken gimmicks?
Fmage and destro are more mongo than any class in game besides maybe dh.
Not just as simple as los’ing… But nice try clown
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And this is why Arena maps have pillars in them.
If only there was… some way… to… you know… stun a target so they couldn’t get behind a pillar. just… you know… like a cc of some type.
#justroguethings
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If only there was some way to start the match behind a pillar.
did the mage get their legs chopped off? if only the mage had a way… you know… so I couldn’t see them. LIKE SOME KINDA INVISIBILITY.
complete speculation though. A class having a way to chunk 60-70% health shouldn’t be able to… you know… just SNEAK UP YOU. YOU KNOW MAN?
yea… totally not possible.
at all.
#justmagethings
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yes because staying behind a pillar clumped up works well with Fan of Knives Spam.
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If only there was some way to swing a leg at the Mage and prevent him from using his Fire spells.
Nah but in all seriousness; Greater Pyro is about the most pathetic way to try and make a class viable in PvP.
I actually agree with you that Fire is over the top right now. Maybe if Greater Pyroblast had a cooldown it would be less of an issue right now but it would probably just be a bandaid.
I mean, why is everyone complaining about things? The solution is simple
Just Win
lol jk just used interrupt to stop sheep.
Humor aside, I agree as well. The damage greater pyro does… really isn’t that out of place compared to other expansions. It’s just in the current meta that it performs well because it’s one of the few abilities that always available. Damage outside of offensive cooldowns for a lot of specs is just too low. So for one spec to have damage at any point, just makes the issue more glaring.
If greater pyro was a thing in cata of mop, I’m not even sure if it would have been as viable. There were plenty of comps that could pump out amazing damage very 30 seconds, if not more. In cata, I was hitting for 30-40k star surges when players had 120-150k health… and they were instant! The huge difference was heals could also counter big damage with big heals. If a healer got a cast or two off, a target could fully recover in some cases. That just doesn’t happen now for most healers outside of some big cds as well.
Aye.
Just win i.e. reroll druid.
got it.
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Countering big damage with big heals was why I loved playing Holy Priest in late Legion, my regular casts actually felt like they were accomplishing something and I had my Holy Words as a backup cooldown, now I can’t even get by in a 2v2 match without using Greater Heal…
Percent based abilities without cooldowns are a problem for another reason too, it devalues the point in the existence of gearing up your character, why chase more gear to heal and deal if you can just spam max health based abilities like Greater Pyro or Greater Heal at will?
Yea, and it makes kicks much more valuable, but also makes juking kicks that much better as well. It’s like landing kicks outside of offensive cooldowns does little to nothing as there is no pressure to capitalize. Over the length of a match it might backup a healer some, but it still does have that immediate satisfaction.
Yea, % based abilities just don’t make much sense. If every spec was designed around it… then fine. But given that it allows fire mages to skirt around some gear requirements just seems odd. Not that super under geared fire mages are running around by any means, but just the idea, as you say, gearing being devalued.
You wanna know something else that also makes no sense? Pyroclasm is just Greater Pyroblast without the calculation being max health.
It’s weird that Greater Pyro in a sense almost acts as a tool to punish your opponent for playing the game the way it was designed and gearing his character up, his gear’s effectiveness has been nerfed the moment you cast a single GPyro at him.
The workaround right now is to add cooldowns to the 2 Greaters so they work similar to Enraged Maul and Lightning Lasso and how they both have cooldowns so you can’t spam them (but I’m talking about 45 secs+ for cooldowns).
Ideally they should just get rid of those 2 spells and tune the rest of the toolkits accordingly to make up for the inevitable power loss it’ll cause to Fire and Holy.
Though Greater Heal could just become a 3 min cooldown with no cast time for Holy Priest.
thats is literally all it needs to make it not so ridiculous. Give it a CD, change it from % based to actual damage numbers.
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I don’t mind % based abilities so long as there are caveats and drawbacks to them, gpyro being a 4s cast or lasso being a channel on a medium CD is fine to me
The fact that a lot of utility is gone from classes and cd based game play is countered by something with no cd feels bad.
Not many classes gained anything in bfa while mages got shimmer in an environment where classes had their pages from their spell books shredded
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This is why these forums are a dumpster, because of trash like you.
Someone tries to post something helpful for people who need and then some low life like you comes along and tries to drag it down.
You need a hug.
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no
a 2200 xp mage made a passive aggressive thread claiming you can line every important destro/fire mage cast in an attempt to justify his pitiful experience by claiming his class is just SO MUCH HARDER than most other classes
but in actuality it just makes him look like a worse player because by his example he doesnt win games because of how he played
he only wins games if the other team plays badly
his response to this will be “I JUST STARTED PLAYING 2 SEASONS AGO AND RMPALA WAS VERY CHALLENGING ILL HAVE YOU KNOW I WAS HIGHER THAN 2200”
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No my response is if your a dk with 5 interrupts complaining about gpyro or getting hit by it idk what to say to that
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