Uhhh, kind of? Not really?
In certain ways, yeah, but both get tweaks so I’m not sure what you’re getting at here.
Absolutely dude lol. This has always been the mini game.
tweaks for the primary changes made in pve. if they don’t tweak the pvp, then it will just fall upon itself with the new pve changes. It’s already bad with the bloat gameplay.
“Good for the long-term health of PVP.”
My brother in Christ, this is record low participation by a magnitude of margin.
Thats not the fault of the Shuffle mode my guy.
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who is we? as far as i’m concerned i’m the anti social maidenless you mentioned above.
they leaved to play solo shuffle because this is what the players want, what they prefer… you are just mad people abandoned you, and now is blaming blizzard to remove RSS so the players would return to “the right path”.
honestly is kinda stupid, do you have friends? do you wanna play with them? then go 2s and 3s, what the problem is? are you trying to pug healers to play with or something? if yes, then who is the one without friends now?
I don’t think ss ruined pvp.
Everyone I do 3s with is still around they just haven’t enjoyed pvp the last couple seasons.
Class imbalance, micro cc, and stuff like precog.
None of its been addressed really.
Nobody likes to q into lock/mage/x, L s d, or rmp every game.
I don’t even like healing those comps because they’re lame and boring.
I don’t think adding stuff like one shot mm hunters offsets wizards who are tanks.
They’re both equally bad imho.
Patronizing and attacking. Strong correlations exist between rated solo shuffle and the death of the arena brackets.
I want more solo rated stuff. I never want to use the stupid LFG tool.
There was just as much toxicity before just qing lfg.
Also last season with solo shuffle had insanely high participation.
There are a multitude of reasons for the decline of participation, sure solo shuffle might be one for some people. But thinking it’s the sole cause is laughable.
I did not mention it being the sole cause. I am connecting a correlation between an event and a decline. Last season, participation was high for a handful of weeks when people wanted to see if it was worth it, but it quickly declined.
Its the community more than the game mode thats the problem.
Got tired of BG3 hopped on and was like lets see what SS is like now.
1st round Fury warrior leaps around the pole. Poly, Poly, Poly, Fear, Fear, Fear.
Someone complains I am chain CC’d and they got no heals.
I guess i could have done a skirmish first or made sure my gear was right but its only 1500 games.
Yeah im done healing I will go back to sitting in dps queues and playing BG3
You’re being disingenuous, and calling what I said “patronizing and attacking” is just proof you’re acting in bad faith honestly.
True but the majority of players play solo. You can try to argue this but the state of pvp over time has showned this exactly.
I have no issue with people grouping until you slap them against people who don’t. Its an issue in many games i play and played to the point they almost cut that ability out entirely relying on MMR and individual skill and how the individual can change things themselves not their group. I get people dont like it but thats just how people are these days. Evolve or die off.
If anything, looking forward to a different meta that isn’t in arena with specs rarely seen like fdk and devoker, who are better in a BG setting
Right, I thought they made a huge mistake isolating solo shuffle and 3s. Just have it be one round, allow people to list in lfg while queing solo or in a duo, have Q as team option at the end of each round, feed it into normal 3s. Give them the option to use in-game voice chat while qin solo. I dont think anyone really voices until about 1800-2k anyway.
Its like so crazy how all they literally had to do was copy the arena skirmish, feed it into normal 3s with a few modifications, but instead they went with this grandiose round-a-bout QUOTE en QUOTE solution QUOTE, that has so many flaws, from MMR issues, to leaver issues, healer bottlenecks, to people getting titled at game like 3/6 then just intentionally throwing, caster getting stuck in a melee lobby, melee getting stuck in caster lobby
Put in a Q as team option make it 1 round(cuts dps q times, eases some healer frustrations), so say if a 2 stack finally finds a 3rd they’re vibeing with they can just keep queing together. Or someone finally finds that comp they’re looking for they can just run it so its not 100% random all the time.
But ya pretty much LFG 3s is just find a group, everyone bails on the 1st or 2nd loss anyway. And if you win and you like your team? Guess what que as team option where anyone who hits that button will at least q as a duo if someone opts out.
People also get way to up in arms about ‘well because its random every possible combination needs to be played’. Its just really far off the mark tbh, if it were one game random soloq people would be much more inclined to find teams. While still being able to have success with just random no voice games too.
I just dont see how in soloq in its current iteration encourages the ‘social aspect’ of finding partners for 3s.
Its just really crazy to me how blizzard just doesn’t get it. The amount of times they’ve shot themselves in the foot with wow pvp over the years has actually baffled me. They’re so out of touch they’re insane.
It would honestly to be fun to do a challenge like, soloq only gladiator.
rating achievements have been useless for so long, due to things like super inflated long seasons, things like bfa pre-patch having absolutely busted things like rogue mage one shotting with core rotational abilities and no cds. I know some people who got their 2.4 achieves then, and haven’t even sniffed that close ever since. #rememberthedates
After least seasons solo shuffle inflation, just about everyone is ‘3k exp’ now.
Blizzard leaving some things absolutely bonkers for 18+ months straight is silly too, i.e rouge/mage in SL and bfa destro/fire mage/rdruid
Rank at the end of the day is pretty much the only thing that matters. It goes without saying that someone who got their glad early-mid season when it was top 1k is a much better player than someone who limped in last week of the season when 2400 was only top 3k.
Patronizing and attacking, then straight into gaslighting. I’d encourage you to re-read what I said. I think we may be adding additional details to your replies that are fueled by biases.
Why do dps wait 15mins to que, with 2k MMR getting 1500 MMR healers or dps that throw matches and just waste time we wait. Just to reque for 15mins and again have low MMR with high MMR throwing
Solo Shuffle just opened your eyes
opened your mind
I just want to play the game :\
But I’m dps so I can’t
Just had a 2250 dps lobby with a 1700 and 1100 healer. 
The latter just died to random buttons 50 seconds into each round. Just gotta go next.