Solo progression makes sense, if it requires the same level of difficulty to earn rewards on par with non solo tracks.
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Source?
Source?
You don’t engage with people.
You tell people they are playing wrong.
You make assumptions based on nothing.
You think people not doing group content are lazy.
You unironically are the embodiment of the “gatekeeping elitist” that people often complain about.
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I just read through some of Blizzard’s marketing and also their 8 core values. The first value being Gameplay First:
Everything we do at Blizzard Entertainment is based on the success of the gaming experiences we provide our players. The goal of each discipline within the company – be it art, programming or customer support – is to make our games as fun as possible for as many people as we can reach.
I think that’s pretty self-explanatory. The idea of creating a more robust world for the solo adventurer is in line with with their first company core value.
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100%. Absolutely.
No, as a raid leader and content creator, engaging with players is my full time job at this point.
I am happy to be the embodiment of that though, because its important to realize that people who play this game seriously aren’t the boogie man.
Many discussions lack representation from equal viewpoints because players serious about the game are too busy playing it instead of talking about it.
I try to bridge that gap.
By calling people lazy?
By demeaning players who don’t do the same content as you?
How and why you are an MVP I will never understand. You popped up out of nowhere and all you do is put people down and occasionally talk about being a content creator.
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I just speak my mind.
I think, by definition, players who want rewards, but refuse to do the content that rewards it, are lazy.
That is not demeaning.
Its just the facts.
I want more money IRL, but I am not willing to work harder than I already do, so I am lazy.
That’s just a fact. Nothing to hide from.
You act like the boogieman when you assume all non-group players are lazy and unambitious though.
So maybe trying to bridge that gap woudl go better if you respected people more…
Because honestly… right now you’re making the gap worse. No offense meant by this. Seriously. If you want to bridge a gap, bridge it with understanding and respect, not offensive assumptions.
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Sorry maybe the term “boogieman” wasn’t used well there.
What I mean is some one you fear because you never know the truth about.
I am here to help others learn the truth, in a sense.
Respect is ancillary to that.
How about if you want better gear do the harder content? don’t want to? find a different game.
Having known a lot of raiders in my time, been a part of a number of raiding guilds, and known a number of wow content creators… I assure you that ‘disrespectful assumptions’ are not the ‘truth’ about those groups.
They’re just your personal truth. And, since like attracts like in group environments, probably also the truth of those you surround yourself with. But not the majority.
Fortunately, that’s EXACTLY what we’re asking for!
Harder content. Just harder content for solo people. 
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Solo content should never give the same rewards as group content.
Well of course not the exact same items. That’d be boring! Different items of the same quality.
But all joking aside… what type of content do you primarily play?
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You are judging this off the way I am presenting the argument, but that is not productive.
All I am describing there is my goals.
I may fail to accomplish those goals for a variety of reasons, but I still try.
No need to get personal past that.
I’d stop playing the game if they ever did this go play SWTOR or any other MMO that caters to players like you.
You have solo progression, they just made it too readily available and they should have timegated it more.
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No I’m judging it based off of comments like this, where you make very negative assumptions about players you don’t know.
“Players like me” - You know I’m both a mythic+ player and raided for around 10 years… right? I just also like solo content to be meaningful.
You’re misunderstanding the definition of solo progression. Solo progression, in the context of this thread, means very specifically this:
Content aimed to be difficult for solo players that awards gear rewards that prepare the solo player to do more difficult solo content to get better gear rewards, and so on. Just the same as m+ and raiding, but for solo and small group players.
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The word “lazy” does not need to be used negatively.
I understand it usually IS used that way but I was not meaning to be negative there.
How else would you describe people willingly playing a game, and expecting rewards from a system they have no interest in participating in, but instead trying to convince Blizzard to change their game to accommodate them instead of adapting themselves?
To me, “lazy” is the kindest thing I can think of to describe that honestly.
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Uh… lazy doesn’t mean what you think it means.
Lazy would be accurate to describe people who just want the loot given to them.
But if they are asking for a way for them to do the work, they’re not lazy… they’re ambitious. They have ambitions of being able to engage wtih the game in a way that is meaningful to them. They’re lacking purpose, possibly, but interested in having purpose.
“Dissatisfied with the status quo” is a reasonable way to describe them too. “Interested in positive change” - that’s another.
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In my 40 years of life, this tends to be used by rude people as an excuse to be rude. Case in point, your posts here.
What, exactly, does this have to do with people asking for a solo progression path?
People are asking for challenging content for solo play, not asking for mythic gear for logging in.
That’s you.
What about someone who is disable and struggling to pay bills. They would like more money but are they lazy for not working? No, because they can’t work due to disability.
You are making assumptions, labeling people negatively, and contributing nothing to this thread but rudeness.
You don’t have nearly enough information to even begin to speak for others.
You are just trolling at this point.
Calling people lazy is negative, full stop.
And here you are contradict yourself, admitting you are using lazy in place of something that would likely get your posting privileges suspended…
I highly recommend people contact MVPs@Blizzard.com to get this Blizz sanctioned troll off the forums.
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