Bingo. It’s that mentality that I find completely destructive to this sort of discussion. These same players are also the “don’t like it? leave” sort of players, which is ridiculous, because people leaving the game you enjoy does NOTHING good for those who stay behind to play. It’s asinine.
And as you pointed out in the same post, this already exists in FFXIV. To get the best gear, you still need 7 other players, but you can reasonably gear all your classes with the dungeon assistants if you wanted it.
And the FFXIV developers realized that there were plenty of people who wanted it. A lot of my friends have done these runs. Many people in my FFXIV guild have done those runs. They also do high-end content, so it isn’t simply for “lazy” or “unsociable” people. It’s content that exists and players can choose whether they want it or not.
This game’s community is incredibly conservative when it comes to pitching ideas. At least, these forums sure act like it. They would choose to pay $100 for a game sub if it meant spitting in the faces of people they don’t want playing the game.
you have those option. Blizz has give people a chance to make a group. Queue into group. Again what you want is braindead content w/ no effort and call it “progression”. You refuse to see how you can progress your character in a game that made by “helping each other out for a common goal.” Instead you want to sit in your own bubble and complain why people who do harder content has better gear than you
Why do you assume that anyone who doesn’t want to group doesn’t want challenge? Serious question. Where did this assumption come from?
I want to do harder content. I just want to do it by myself, or with a single friend, or with my wife.
(And to be clear, I also do mythic+ - I am a part of a mythic+ group in my guild. I also plan to raid at some point. But I really want an option to do stuff in smaller groups because that would be a great deal of fun. And it’d get some people I know, like my wife, interested in the game again. And being able to play WoW with her would be awesome.
Then explain why FFXIV added solo content and their numbers continue to grow? Because most people in this game engage in both solo and group content. Anyone with any decent number of achievement points falls in this category.
And if you’d love more solo content, why on earth are you arguing with OP? We all engage in solo content for rewards. Adding gear progression to solo content - even if it’s still worse than what you get from the largest group content - wouldn’t somehow “take you away” from group content, because you would be subbed and you’d put more time into the game.
Or rather, if it does take you from group content, then that says a lot about why you’re engaging with group content now but would be willing to go straight to solo content.
I don’t know a thing about final fantasy. Where can I learn more about its subscription numbers?
But plainly put, they either add solo content that makes no impact (much like they have already in the game?) or they add solo content that competes with group-based progression and dramatically impacts that element of the game.
Neither of which make sense from Blizzard’s end, despite what I or others want.
There is already enough stuff I engage with solo, so even though I would personally like that to expand, I would greatly prefer they just expand group content so it is more repeatable instead.
Or they add a solo content and it makes people who are otherwise bored sitting around doing nothing considering quitting the game have something to do, stay engaged, and continue to be a part of the overall community. Which, often, eventually leads to them making friends because the community’s pretty nice… and making friends can then lead to them engaging in both solo AND group content, improving things for everyone.
Oh, sorry… did I just use logic to paint an optimistic picture? Crap. That’s not how you view the world. So I guess you’ll just disagree.
There is solo progression it’s called your covenant campaign, as you do it it unlocks higher tier pvp/world quest gear that sounds exactly like what you want and it’s already in game
There is nothing ignorant about what he said. We saw exactly what he described with Torgast. That got nerfed into the ground because too many complained about its difficulty. The truth is that most of the soloers asking for solo progression just want an easy path to the best gear. That’s why they never group in the first place.
Or, perhaps, the people who wanted hard solo dcontent engaged in it… but a few people didn’t and complained about it.
Just like there are people complaining about mythic+ existing. Doesn’t mean there aren’t people out there doing mythic+ and loving it… just that people for whom it wasn’t designed want everything to be about them and thus complain if something they don’t want exists.
Some people complaining about something does not mean that it isn’t good for different people or that it shouldn’t exist. If we removed everything ‘people complained about’, there’d be nothing left.
A lot of solo content outside of torghast feels too trivial and fast-paced. I guess I prefer the solo content of Classic, where the world feels somewhat dangerous and large.
It doesn’t though. It just gives you gear for free. Which isn’t what people want. People want to earn gear. They want challenge that awards gear, just without the large numbers of people involved.
