Endgame players largely only have current raids and mythics as content with any value. We have everything else.
We have every expansion in the entire game to play and find value in. They have the same raids and mythics to grind for months and months.
That’s what I call a victory for the casual player.
I personally don’t mind one shot mechanics as long they function properly. What I don’t like with the delves are the random mobs and the immense variation in their power level. I think the biggest problem with the delves is that there are too many so the balancing is all over the place. I’m not arguing that some of you people can do all the delves at tier 11 and it was super easy.
After having played them at t7-8 for a couple of days I just don’t like them. I’d rather do thorgast and that’s saying something since I disliked that quite a bit. I was however a fan of the visions(bfa) and that I think was good solo content.
The biggest problem I am seeing as far as damage going out solo in a delve is that you can’t interupt the casts that deal 3-4million damage each and most of the mobs cast them every 4-5 seconds and then they nerfed brann interupting stuff less often so u just get trained by casts that you have to watch go off because your interupt has 6-8 seconds left on its CD. They need to revert the interupts Brann does on solo and maybe bring down the damage by 5-10% on an 8 and i think it would be in line with the group play. That and when the boss has 67m health on solo and 122m health on 5 player that scaling is dumb and needs to be adjusted one way or the other either buff the 5 man health or nerf the solo health. The best option would be to nerf the solo health to be in like with that 5 to 1 ratio but either way something has to be done
you mean when the non-elite lesser frame mob hits you for 1.6m and then the elite hits your for 450k
The good ole days of Torghast
If you are a pet class, Brann will never attempt to take aggro off you or your pet for any reason and cannot be misdirected to.
The lvl 5 delve I did solo today felt like a slog. The mobs were dmg sponges and I hated the having to find a bubble at least once a minute to breathe. Now I see why with the scaling issues. The amount of hp and dmg that mobs have should be lower solo compared to if I was in a group, and yet the opposite is true (by a significant margin).
Haven’t had Brann gain any experience since Tuesday…
That’s no bueno.
He does seem to be gaining less tho. I’ve been getting almost 2 levels each bountiful, but just ran an 8 Underkeep and he only gained about 80% of a level … went to 26 because I was already almost midway to 25 but I wonder if they stealth nerfed his xp gains.
Maybe… My Brann is level 16 and not worth much of anything.
Guy on moon guard just finished t11 ilvl 594
My Bran is not levelling at all, stopped at 15. No idea how to get more levels. Kaivan said all Bountiful would work, but that’s not it. I’m solo, doing up to level 7 bountiful delves with great difficulty, but Brann is still sitting at 0/37688 level 15.
If you want to make these solo delves an “endgame pillar” or whatever then you should sure as f put the WORK into bespoke tuning for specific spec/class combos. Otherwise it’s just stupid.
I’d agree that Delves need iterating upon and that their current state isn’t ideal for what Blizz want them to be.
I’ve argued that in these forums. I’ve argued that they probably should have been made solo-only, because the amount of work Blizzard would have to put in to make a single endgame progression system that caters to anything from 1-5 players with groups being able to run any combination of specs is astronomical.
At least by focusing on solo play they could concentrate their efforts on making sure they function and are well balanced for each spec. And I’d argue that if they had to choose between focusing on solos or small groups, they should focus on solos because there is already an endgame system for small groups.
Delves are likely to be a bit of a mess for a while and I don’t think flat number tuning for them will ever really work unless Blizz offers scaling for them based on spec - and even that doesn’t account for all of the potential group compositions for group play.
We can only hope that Blizzard are willing to put the effort in to make the fundamental changes Delves are likely to need - because I think the idea of a progression system outside of dungeons and raids appealed to a lot of people.
They should start with proper by spec tuning for soloers and just tune group delves without those modifiers.
I mean seriously people in this thread and beyond take 5 minutes or so to figure out ways to develop this content and it somehow didn’t get noticed by Blizzard during their entire dev cycle, it’s embarassing.
I think that makes sense. I do believe solo players should be the priority because they’re the ones that have no other options for endgame progression.
While I am biased being a solo player myself, it’s also a fact that Blizzard lose the subs of people like me because they usually don’t offer us much at endgame.
I don’t think it’s that it didn’t get noticed, I think Delves were given limited resources.
Things like Island Expeditions, Warfronts and Torghast ultimately failing likely made Blizzard a bit more reserved.
But hopefully if that is the case, the interest Delves have received makes them realise it’s a system worth investing in
Unlike some others, I don’t think you should have to change spec to do them. I think you should be able to progress with the spec you enjoy playing, and there definitely seems to be specs that just don’t have the tools to handle Delves as they are now
I think blizzard’s focus was just making sure 1-8 are doable, it’s also why I think delves generally under shoot on difficulty only capping at 3/8 champion. (Not counting maps). If it gave better gear it’d need tighter tuning and be much more likely xyz spec was incapable of completing it at max reward level.
The challenge level tuning will get there hopefully, but for now I’m just running 4 bountiful 8s a day and levelling my brann.
No dear, I think you are bad.
I don’t agree with that. Leave that delve alone.
Why sell it as a major feature if you’re gonna half-butt it then?
No I believe it was just mismanaged as many, many other things were with TWW.