SOD's boring lol

I know it was for WotLK, I include that as part of classic as its what that particular server cluster has rolled over into.

Also, BfA was decently liked over all. Especially compared to current dragon age retail possibly vitalizing SOD population.

And even old world classic was 1 to 1 with SOD population, and has retained players for years now through the original fresh cycle, which includes pop from vanilla through wotlk imo.

Whereas SOD has lost 80% of its players. Maybe dropping lvl 60 and end game, along with some extension, might bring some players back. But if they are working on the MOP remix then thats prolly the new classic focus eventually.

SoD is boring, but replaying era over and over isnt?

No, SOD is bad, not necessarily boring.

Classic is a better game design in the state of each, and fresh classic would be the most fun and least boring. So playing Classic again fresh would be preferred since its a better game, SOD is simply the only semi-“fresh” server that is available.

Hope this helps sort the cognitive dissonance.

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I had a lot of fun in Phase 1. Right now though I’m feeling the affect of the 20 man one week lock outs. People aren’t even logging into the game. I’m sitting here playing solo and its boring af.

Phase two they made the mistake of ruining premades and just giving people rep for free.

If they ever did a fresh era server I’d be all about that.

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We want fresh Classic Era servers.
I’ll play Era until I can’t.

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Yeah I wonder what to do with my gold? i should be liquidating all my materials. I have 5 accounts and did have 2 battle nets. Just got rid of the 2 battle nets. Had one account cleaned out but then Blizz announced the damage reduction in PVP so I resubbed. Getting all my gold moved over to one account.

Looking forward to leaving TBH. I see a lot of players leaving now.

Fresh era would be trash anyway.

Have fun bud! You’re making a wise decision running now.

Not surprised a paladin wrote this.

P1 blew. So many specs didn’t exist or work and just had to wait till p2. P2 or P3 were significantly better IMO

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cata hypeeee

The retention of classic vanilla was much greater. SoD should have been an easy win, the drop off is showing a huge fumble.

Not to mention the numbers are skewed as SoD is far easier to level alts to get logs

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He fails to realise SoD is far easier to get alts contributing to the log pool. Also raids are far more accessible than vanilla.

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Layerless freah, no game changes. It’s the only way.

It turns out when you streamline everything and remove the gameplay with needless QoL, there isn’t anything to do!

I knew it was beyond help when I reached cap in P3 less than 6h from launch without even trying.

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cya tomorrow

Had to correct that for you… fresh era servers sound like a snoozefest.

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It had ALL of the hype, and no competition except the much maligned bfA Season 3- not to mention a certain event effectively trapping everyone in their house for 6-12 months.

Vanilla had a lot of hype, a lot of rose-colored glasses, and very little competition.
(And you’ll see later in this post, it also had an immediate population dive before being helped by covid lockdowns.)

There’s ALWAYS drop off.
(Yes, there are points that SoD took hits from self-inflicted wounds, but trying to pretend it wouldn’t have had churn if it was like vanilla is silliness.)

You can compare the GDC graphs to see the trajectory of the overall population. (You can see a slight uptick from HC servers, and then “line go up” nearly as verticle as the original hyped classic launch.)

You’ll also note the population boom for wow classic shot up, and then lost half of it in the first 3 months before climbing again due to covid lockdowns.

ht ps://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1bmrpyb/updated_wow_population_chart_from_gdc_with_dates/

People say P1 was the best because of a few reasons. It had the highest population and there was always stuff going on. The activity dropped quite a bit going into P2 and even more going into P3.

Lot’s of guilds died and at least on Lava Lash even some of the bigger raiding guilds are having issues with lack of people.

You talk about something else all together which is relative to classes and fleshing them out more. Which is also true.

You can interpret graphs to infer whatever point you are trying to argue. That goes both ways obviously.

But what are you actually trying to argue by your interpretation? That SoD is a huge success? Lol.

Also I duno what that dribble was after quoting my comment about SoD being far easier to have multiple alts contributing to the logging numbers. How about you try again?

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Well no, there’s only one set of context for subs. This isn’t a multiverse.

It’s not as big as it was, clearly- but it has the same population profile as Classic Vanilla…
Big spike, then big dropoff. (Like every game.)

Maybe try reading and looking at the graph.
I already made it clear. You not liking the implication because it doesn’t fit your narrative is a problem for you. Calling it dribble just makes you look extra defensive due to having the rug pulled out from your argument.

(Also, the GDC graph is subs, not characters, hence why it’s more useful for counts when you need to account for alts.)

The graph you are refering to doesn’t even explicitly say it is refering to sub counts nor does it have a Y axis displayed. It also doesn’t show SoD ahead of classic vanilla despite there being 3 classics instead of the 1 nor does it distinguish between the multiple versions available.

Hence

You’re making assumptions that benefit your narrative without any evidence.

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