SOD - Thoughts on Shaman

Well that’s not true, the retail existence isn’t even the same experience.

I can’t even cure diseases off myself in retail.

Alliance over 60% of the total population, check.

Shaman only viable as tanks/healers, while Ret Paladins are demolishing PvP? Check.

Horde is gonna be a dead faction, give it a year.

These devs couldn’t balance anything.

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Its fun but man being capped at 25 sucks

F tier class since 2004. Forever will be. Blizzard dont care. They never did. I played for years fighting it. Rerolled and never looked back.

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I think enhance only became insane in dragonflight for pve. I want to say the last world first or the one before the winner ran 2 enhance shamans. We need that developer on enhance balance lol.

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Well it’s known that 2h enhance Rune is coming in phase 2 it could be the saving grace for the spec or a complete flop… it’s hard to say.

I’m praying it’s great, 2h Enhance is absolutely so much fun and if SoD actually made it viable dps wise in PvE be simply amazing.

But then again they seem very out of touch in the balance department.

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and healing stream totem! it adds up on longer fights and if you can get away with Earth Shield, it’s great heals and super mana efficient as well. shaman def can’t solo heal BFD, but it works well with a duo priest or druid.

Resto shaman is pretty meh atm, but i’m hopeful for future runes.

It really depends on runes next phase but the more I think about it the more it feels like cope. Other classes just got better tools than Shaman for PVP.

I feel like just letting a Ret Paladin hit me at 25 is the level of ‘wtf was that dmg’ you think about when you get blown up by an Ele in era.

Ele has low range and no stuns, roots, cc besides grenades and frost shock which puts your burst on CD. You also don’t get any points in improved Ghostwolf at 40.

It’s going to be the caster equivalent of Unbreakable enhance montage. Just bait for crit montages when you are going to spend most of your time ingame just getting rolled.

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It’s unlikely 2h Enhance will outperform DW in PvE, there’s just no competition in the potential sustained damage on paper.

Where 2h’s strength lies is blowing someone the F up in PvP.

You’re running earth shield. That’s your problem. You’re a tauren. Get flame shock up, drop earthbind, land a stomp and lava burst into earth shock and you’ll have another shock coming off cooldown shortly after. Maintain lightning shield, get down a searing. Lava Burst, Way of Earth, Shield Specialization (unless you’re dueling caster for pushback then go dual spec).

This is huge value btw with how common fire and nature damage alone are. Think of all the mages, warlocks, hunters, rogues. 10% DR to those damage types on top of the 10% DR from Way of Earth.

Endgame right now, is level 25. On the 8th, endgame will be considered level 40. You cant call unavailable content endgame and you definitely dont use that as an excuse for balance issues.

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I could solo heal BFD on my shaman if my group stopped eating bubbles and hugging murlocs, as it stands i do 10k healing to the priests 1k healing and with overload I basically solo heal Akumai with no cleanses.

I also have one of the best/most fun raid buffs in shaman rage, cause giving 180 mana every 60 seconds to 4,5, or 6 other raid members is big.

Edit: Side note, I want totems hp/armor/effect to scale with gear and make stoneclaw actually good in PVE, my water shield proccing can pull aggro off of it.

Or give shamans a totem they can blink to.

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I would love a cool totem rune and I’m so surprised we didn’t get one. Considering that’s the staple feature of our class it’s odd we didn’t get some sort of new unique totem.

Maybe a totem mastery rune where I could place the totem wherever rather than at the foot of the caster? this would probably be pretty OP but I guess I can dream… :slight_smile:

here is the only shaman thought that matters. dont go tank spec in pvp. please stop it. its bad. you dont have the dps . please just stop it.

this goes to the warlock tanks as well. you are not needed in pvp. just stop it

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That’s not because of tank spec lmao, no Shaman is trading damage for sustain, no other rune option in that slot is even helpful.

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Mages are super horrible. Stuff dies before one Arcane Blast can be cast. Plus that ONE Arcane Blast costs like 1/2 mana. :face_with_diagonal_mouth:

How is this known? Was it announced somewhere? All I’ve seen is speculation and hope.

Oh that mage is casting poly on me, lemme just cast… oh wait its not ranged anymore

They announced it in the SoD Q&A ages ago, he literally came in saying “I just finished working on the 2h enhance shaman rune for phase 2” as a teaser, although we have no clue what it is.