I’m feeling Shaman can’t do anything even in SOD…
PVE wise, elemental shaman still bad on mana; enchantment shaman has rune locked behind the rachet quests; restro shaman has healing rain locked behind the reputation, shamanistic rage is overall better than earth shield; only tank shaman doing well with multiple pulls, but still having mana problem with single target boss.
PVP wise… none of the specs are good, can’t even cast a lava burst before death (even with earth shield on me).
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I’m glad I’m not the only one that feels this way. As a long time shaman player, this is really disappointing.
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I am kind of tired of feeling like the bastard, runt child of the family. Might play druid as they got a WF and it looks fun atm.
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Shaman and Mages are pretty bad. So much mana problems. Just reroll until you get better gear with higher lvls.
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Compared to ERA shaman is still in a better position though IMO.
I believe the lvling route is still better as enh, probably until lvl 40. And no point to go DW until you have 5% hit rune.
So it’s either Tank or 2H.
Pretty sure S2 will have improvements
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For pvp you go overload+lavaburst. Cast a shock in the same global and if overload procs, its almost like a free win. So I’m not sure if I agree with you on there being no good spec for PVP.
That said, its some kind of sick joke that we have to spend an entire phase watching everyone else run around with windfury, among other issues.
I’m not sure how you came to that conclusion, but dw is superior due to the amount of mana regen you get from shamrage and having talents support it in general. SoD enhance is very awkward at the moment, unless you’re tanking.
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I was doing overload+lavaburst+earthshield. But the cast time and range is kinda bad. I have to go flame shock + lavaburst, so I am 20 yard in range, then you poke around with earthbind totem to slow them down. A hunter will slow the lavaburst casting so much even though I had the earth shield on me (which reduces 30% casting time lost when damaged). I’m using this build right now, but it only works if no one attack you imo.
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I understand the post, but its P1. 25 is bad for us. Focus on getting the runes and making money right now.
We’re eating the sh!t sandwich right now. At 40, we’re eating steaks. Just run with it brother.
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Would very much like to see 2 hand enhancement shammy more viable and supported at least similarly to dual wield. Bunch of runes geared towards dual wield but nothing for 2 handers. Its the OG classic experience and everyone LOVES hitting those hard WF procs with a 2h. Pleaseeeeee classic dev team!!!
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You must be playing shaman wrong then. If you choose any rune besides rockbiter, you are forfeiting 30% extra health PLUS 10% dmg reduction PLUS extra earthshock seperate cd. Its a no brainer, for pvp or pve.
Next you dont need stupid ratchet rune till we get stormstrike and that wont be for a while. Stick with overload.
Shaman is good, but its better if we keep it lowkey do they dont nerf it like they did hunter
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Yeah shaman isn’t terrible, but i don’t like how they just slapped in DWing stuff without making necessary adjustments at the same time. When they introduced dw in TBC, they changed rockbiter, they made imbues last longer, and made it so you could right click them off.
They didn’t do any of that in SoD. They just slapped in some DW runes with little thought. So now rockbiter is superior, and you have to use twice as much mana mid fight to re-apply imbues. If imbues fall off and wildstrikes takes over, then you have to unequip one weapon mid-fight. This and the whole requiring people to scream at them about 2h bugs me a lot. It all gives credence to the idea that shaman is only thought of in the last minute.
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They’ve already clarified how they designed SoD. They came up with the concept of runes and came up with full rune builds at 60, then later came up with the phase concept and tried to chop out and distribute runes in a way that felt equitable across the leveling phases. It’s almost certain your build is not fully complete until 60.
We’ve already datamined specific skills for other kits. It is what it is. Best Blizzard can do is try to do some tweaking here and there to help smooth out rough patches and try to balance this phase without causing issues in later phases.
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I love how clearly written your posts are, but you haven’t addressed anything I mentioned.
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You said “they slapped in DW runes with little thought”.
My argument is that I think they did think about it, but they just didn’t put thought into what happens if you have some of your runes but not all of them. It’s half-baked because you’re only operating with half the puzzle pieces. Same with SP, same with Boomie.
That’s my theory at least. Yes, it isn’t any consolation now to know that in P2 or P3 or whenever you’ll get windfury or perhaps QoL changes to totems or imbues since you’re playing the game right now, I’m just saying how we ended up here and perhaps why Blizzard isn’t making the changes that they should even though they have made some good changes already to other classes - the changes may already be coming for some of those areas and they’re just interested in “holding you over” until then.
Unfortunately if that’s true then the best you can hope for is stuff like that dual wield hit buff - stuff to help your DPS but won’t fix any fundamental issues or QoL.
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It’s pretty obvious the people in charge of SoD just wanted to play retail paladin in classic and had to justify it by slapping a bunch of nonsense on every other class. Some are less egregious than others but paladins is the only class with no issues at all.
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To be fair, Ret was the most “ready” to be fixed by just giving them a couple buttons. Same with Prot Pally to be honest.
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So… I leveled up a priest, healing in BFD as a priest is way easier than a restro shaman, priest has so many abilities for any situations; shaman just healing wave & healing rain, I just don’t feel myself having any impact as a healer.
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Shaman tanks are great, put them against a spell caster boss where shield mastery is absolutely worthless. Good bye Tank’s mana within 30 seconds
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I disagree with you here. It may have been a free win at the beginning of P1, but as people are getting WSG and stam gear, that combo chunks half of their hp and you’re stuck to melee/shock until you eventually die.
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Lol I hope so brother. But as for the next weeks, as Lahey would say, all ‘‘I smell’’ is the ‘‘sh!tstorm, randy’’.
Thanks for this, I didn’t have time to inform myself and I thought they were winging it in between phases.
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Yeah, Shamans suck this phase and I’m not holding my breath for phase 2 either. Elemental Shamans are utter bottom tier in BFD and Lava Burst in PvP has some large gaps due to its range, cast time and cooldown.
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